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post Dec 17, 2011 - 4:23 PM
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hello all, as some of you may know i am in the process of re-building my Lil 7Afe. unfortunately i am at an impasse, and have exhausted all of the on hand available information. and once again am in need of you experienced builders out there...

but before i go and ask the question i will give you the relevant information.

this pertains to engine bearings, for both the rods and the mains.

now, my block has the markings for OEM main bearings numbers:1,2,2,2,2
using plastiguage the clearances for the bearings were: #1=.002, #2=.002, #3=.0015. #4=.002, #5=.0015
on the crank it is marked 1 11 11
i also checked the markings on the bearings:#1=D6D 0 T2, #2=D6D L T3, #3=D6D L T3, #4=D6D L T3, #5=D6D L T3.




i measured and rechecked all of the measurements and markings, so this is accurate.
the journals on the crank and the bearings show light signs of wear. the crank nothing that cant be polished out, the bearing ima just replace.
thus far it looks like the designation on the bearings and the the block line up with the number one bearing being the only one that is different.
but the fact that the num-3 and num-5 bearings were measured at .0015 does concern me (if anything that would mean that they are a bit tighter right?). i do not know just as to how much of a difference that means but it does throw in one more variance that i am thinking that i need to compensate for (unless im over analyzing this, i don't know this is my first time doing this..).


On to the rods, they look to be much simpler..

all of the rods were measured at .002
all of the rods bearings had the designation of : D6D B 2
and on the rod itself (on the side opposite of the side that shows you have the correct cap with the correct rod by making and "M", those of you who have seen this will know what im talking about)
the rod is marked with 2 51


so, on to my questions.. it looks like ordering bearings for the rods will be simple since they all look to be be the same size and there is no deference in clearance on em. i am looking to get some ACL bearings for both the rods and the mains. unfortunately, that is as far as i can go. my Haynes manual has some piss poor chart that trys to explain what all the information is supposed to let you know what bearings to order, and the online BGB only takes it one step farther by saying what the thickness of the bearings should be based on the numbered marking, but all of this information still does not help me at all since no matter if im looking at e-bay, or looking at ordering strait from ACL all sizes on purchase sites are marked as "standard", or a selection on "over" sizes..
yeah and one more thing, for the rods i would like to get just the "regular/base" ACL bearings since i plan on replacing the rods within the next two years w/ some belfab ones. but the crank i would like to spring for the next lvl up bearings that ACL offers since they will be in there for a wile and later be seeing boost for sure.

SO.. can anyone help me with letting me know just as to WHAT bearings i am supposed to order? i do not really need for any of you to "do" the work for me , but if you could simplify this a bit for me, and let me know what "size" i should order, that would be of IMMENSE HELP!!!!

once again thank you in advance to anyone who is able to help me with this.. if you need pix or more information (though i think i got it covered) please just ask and or let me know...
also if any of you have ay suggestions that would help, do not hesitate. i am open to any, just don't flame, this IS my first time doing this and i feel that i am doing pretty well for it being so..
thank you
nick

Oh and THIS is what i am looking at for the bearings


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post Dec 20, 2011 - 10:20 AM
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have you not seen my thread on building a 7A-FE in the stickys? dont waste your $$$ on ACL bearings, they are a one size fits all and sometimes not quite right. by what you posted with all your clearances being .002 or .0015 you are right on the money. just get the same bearing that was in there. take your crank to a machine shop and have the journals polished. thats all you have to do.

ACL are ok bearings but i have seen inconsistencies in their designs. and some poor quality bearings also. once i got a bearing that literally had pits in it. just go OEM. and read my guide!


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post Dec 20, 2011 - 2:32 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 20, 2011 - 10:20 AM) *
have you not seen my thread on building a 7A-FE in the stickys? dont waste your $$$ on ACL bearings, they are a one size fits all and sometimes not quite right. by what you posted with all your clearances being .002 or .0015 you are right on the money. just get the same bearing that was in there. take your crank to a machine shop and have the journals polished. thats all you have to do.

ACL are ok bearings but i have seen inconsistencies in their designs. and some poor quality bearings also. once i got a bearing that literally had pits in it. just go OEM. and read my guide!



thank you smaay, yes i have read your guide, and it covers all of the actual work to be done on the motor quite well! it has defiantly helped alot! smile.gif but as you can see my current perdicament is on the ordering of the parts. i apriciate the feed back on the ACL bearings, and are now looking at the OEM option. though more expencive. since you have done this before and it sounds like you did the actual parts ordering, if i were to use a web site like this or any of the other discount toyota parts distributors. do i reference the "mark" on the block ( the 1,2,2,2,2) and the "marks" on the rods ( the 2,2,2,2) as a reference to select the propor bearings? and that, THAT is what the "mark" is refering to on these sites? i feel that i am close, but i just want to be sure before i order the parts. im running out of time and money.. and i really dont want to get a situation were the parts i get dont work and im fu**ed.


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