WTA intercooling, For a 6th gen celica forum why arent we talking more about this??? Options

[3WayStunna]

Alright this isnt meant to be a thread where i post a random question and hope for a decent answer...no this thread is more like a info and question dump for those who choose either way.

Lets be honest some of us on this forum own GT4's or we get the WTA intercooling system in front clips and think its all hunky dory to just throw on our cars without any real concise or group info on this....FORUM.....to help us out...

So hows about we get this started...Come on ppl this is about helping each other out and i guess ill start..first off this....my simplistic view..

The real benefits of an WTA system are below.....

***Shorter piping btwn the turbo and intake manifold means less intercooler pressure drop
*** Less intercooler piping
***incredibly less lag time
*** colder intake temps
***more space in engine bay for any type of battery
*** colder engine temps due to more air hitting the radiator (esp if you ditch the aircon)
***running incog-negro...basically no gaudy or tacky FMIC lol.....Sleeper status, etc....

And the drawbacks are this...

*** Weight....the piping etc. not so much but the water will add some LBS..
***complexity....not really to be honest but requires more parts, means more points for failure..only as complex as you want it though..
***weight distribution...more weight on the front of car obviously...

Now a breakdown of the main parts......

***WTA core
***heat exchanger
***PUMP
***misc hoses/fittings/piping etc....

To be honest a decent kit can be setup for around 300-500 usd depending on where you get your parts.
The parts i just ordered were from www.siliconeintakes.com OR www.frozenboost.com ( there the same company btw)

Now while i provided a list of the basic parts and really just one company that sells everything you can order your stuff from, there are alot of other things to consider.

***type of pump and whether you want it to run constantly or at set time
***fans for the radiator
*** hot you will prevent heatsoak of the CORE itself
***where to put all of this stuff....
***type of fittings and whether you will use rubber or silicone to connect your aluminum/steel piping
***type of fluid to be used
*** and the list can go on and on depending on how crazy and exotic you want to go...


And yes all of those above considerations are real world done by myself and many other WELL experianced people in the MR2 an Celica world.....

Guide and link to typical setup..
http://www.haywood-sullivan.com/vana...ler_system.pdf

Details of my celica setup....

***Stock WTA intercooler (wrapped with heatshielding to prevent heatsoak - not in this pic though)
***silicone hose btwn the intecooler and turbo (actually made a differnce in temps/response time...never figured out why though)
***aluminum radiator w/2 small fans wired to a switch
***pump only ran as stock (when throttle signal was present)



Looking to see others post setups of their own or other ideas as i basically posted very simple info regarding WTA setups...there is much that can be covered and even more that has been proven or typed....later on ill post up some info from MR2oc.com and gt4oc.net with respective rights given to the authers to avoid typing up info that has been covered numerous times by people with more experiance and just better typing skills than myself lol..

This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:28 AM

[3WayStunna]

I made my own charge cooler a few years ago.



fitted & painted



I spent years researching charge cooling, its pros and cons, designs etc etc I run two radiators on my system, a TTE type swirl pot and it works great although the design need to be refined a bit so eventually I wil work on the mk2

Yes i remember reading through your threadso n the GT4OC.....Anywho so how is the MKI holding up since you have made it? And what are your plans with the MKII? Btw ill link your threado n GT4OC for others to read if you dont mind...
http://www.gt4oc.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=74267

Beautiful setup by the way...hope my next two jobs come out looking as good as yours..also like the stock you have given the intercooler...

for 300$ I got this radiator and chargecooler

Neon how do you expect your system to hold up for what you are using your car for...i mean it looks like your building a drag car to be honest....Maybe adding a swirlpot/ or resevoir is in your thoughts as well?

This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Jan 17, 2012 - 1:23 AM

[Nial]

Anywho so how is the MKI holding up since you have made it? And what are your plans with the MKII?

Its still going strong thanks, one of the legs suffered a stress fracture, but soon had it welded back together. need to refit it one day as the standard cooler is on at the moment.

The MK2 will be designed to look more like the original charge cooler, just deeper with a better core.