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post Apr 10, 2012 - 10:45 PM
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Does anyone here has successfully turbo charge there 3sge engine, How much horses can i get if i do get one, and what can i get them? Thanks
 
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post May 11, 2012 - 2:47 AM
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I talked about this here already.... in 2007 I needed to make choice: turboing 7AFE or swap 3SGTE. Finally won turboing 7AFE. It was great choice. I loved my 7AFTE. In 2009 I needed to make another choice. Rebuild 7AFTE to hold more power or swap 3rd gen 3SGE and turbo it. I went 3SGE turboing way (I already went through similar process with 7AFE right?) ...and it was the worst decision of my life! 6 month ago I wrecked my old ST car and bought ST205 (only sensible way to go).

The point of this story: the best way to have turbocharged 3SGE is swap 3SGTE.

As a prove I can share with story of a guy who tried to do the same (turbo 3rd gen 3SGE) and failed as well. From I know it took one year to build it and after like 1000miles he literally melted turbine blades and broke engine (fail of mechanic or simply turboing of 3S is harder than it seems?). He decided to rebuild it under new mechanic again but honestly I did not hear anything about he successfully riding his car now at all...


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post May 11, 2012 - 3:30 AM
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QUOTE (malpaso @ May 10, 2012 - 9:47 PM) *
I talked about this here already.... in 2007 I needed to make choice: turboing 7AFE or swap 3SGTE. Finally won turboing 7AFE. It was great choice. I loved my 7AFTE. In 2009 I needed to make another choice. Rebuild 7AFTE to hold more power or swap 3rd gen 3SGE and turbo it. I went 3SGE turboing way (I already went through similar process with 7AFE right?) ...and it was the worst decision of my life! 6 month ago I wrecked my old ST car and bought ST205 (only sensible way to go).

The point of this story: the best way to have turbocharged 3SGE is swap 3SGTE.

As a prove I can share with story of a guy who tried to do the same (turbo 3rd gen 3SGE) and failed as well. From I know it took one year to build it and after like 1000miles he literally melted turbine blades and broke engine (fail of mechanic or simply turboing of 3S is harder than it seems?). He decided to rebuild it under new mechanic again but honestly I did not hear anything about he successfully riding his car now at all...


Mine isn't a full 3sge, the block is 3sgte and the head is 3sge with 3sgte cams and valve springs.

I would think that as long as he lowers the comp ratio of the 3sge he should be fine. Higher comp ration creates more heat and could account for the melted turbine blades. I would also change the head internals just to be safe. But for all of that trouble, why not just get a 3sgte instead.


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post May 11, 2012 - 4:00 AM
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QUOTE (match220 @ May 11, 2012 - 10:30 AM) *
Mine isn't a full 3sge, the block is 3sgte and the head is 3sge with 3sgte cams and valve springs.

I would think that as long as he lowers the comp ratio of the 3sge he should be fine. Higher comp ration creates more heat and could account for the melted turbine blades. I would also change the head internals just to be safe. But for all of that trouble, why not just get a 3sgte instead.


That 3SGE I mentioned was equipped with lower compression pistons (the same as for 3SGTE) so it was not just about "bolt turbine on". Just for info...


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