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post May 10, 2012 - 8:47 PM
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I'll be running a 3" high flow cat with 2.5 reducers on each side, I just noticed that the stock Gen III 3sgte downpipe has a cat built into it. I know some downpipes will kill drill bits and others you can pound out with a hammer if you spend a few hours..lol. I want to hollow it out though, are the downpipe internals hard to gut?


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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
 
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post May 13, 2012 - 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ May 13, 2012 - 12:36 AM) *
your car, your call, but i don't agree your smashed out cat is better for performance than a well crafted 3" downpipe (ive had both)

so choose what you like for your car, but maybe leave your personal theory as that instead of parading it as fact??



QUOTE (presure2 @ May 13, 2012 - 2:09 AM) *
match, do some research.
the cast elbow and large opening for the cat material are horrible for flow.
all the velocity is lost in the cat section, which is what you want, velocity.
a well made 3"downpipe will make more power, everywhere, over the stock downpipe, blitz upper section + stock lower, or any 2.5" dp.
its been proven, over and over. there are dyno charts where the testing has been done, so before you get your panties all in a bunch, i suggest you know your facts.
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These are facts, it's thermodynamics, the foundation for a lot of what our physics are based off of....density. They aren't personal theories or things car nerds type up that others find via google. They are good things to keep in mind when building an exhaust system.

And as far as the DP flow, I have to suck it up and agree now that it won't be as great as an aftermarket one. When I was at the car yesterday I noticed all of the bends inside of the two DP sections(mainly the upper half), and how it gets larger and smaller and changes from square to round and round to square. This will disrupt flow and keep it from being as smooth as I would like it to be, but I will save the money and keep it since it's what I have. Thanks for the comments though guys. I'm not mad, and I hope that isn't how I'm coming across, I know that's how it seems sometimes when there is just text and no voice tones.


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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve

Posts in this topic
- match220   anyone ever hollow out their downpipe?   May 10, 2012 - 8:47 PM
- - Jazon256   Yeah, I'd be really interested if anyone's...   May 10, 2012 - 11:25 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (Jazon256 @ May 10, 2012 - 6:2...   May 10, 2012 - 11:41 PM
- - JozhGoober   I've hollowed out the downpipe cat on my MR2...   May 11, 2012 - 8:38 AM
- - playr158   Why not buy an Ebay downpipe or something? they ar...   May 11, 2012 - 9:18 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 11, 2012 - 4:1...   May 11, 2012 - 1:03 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (match220 @ May 11, 2012 - 7:0...   May 11, 2012 - 8:20 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 11, 2012 - 3:2...   May 11, 2012 - 8:25 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 11, 2012 - 3:2...   May 11, 2012 - 8:43 PM
- - match220   It's not very hard, i took my cheap ryobi dril...   May 11, 2012 - 10:39 PM
- - presure2   that bottom half of the downpipe that contains the...   May 12, 2012 - 7:55 AM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (presure2 @ May 13, 2012 - 12...   May 12, 2012 - 9:32 AM
- - match220   The factory outlet of the DP is 2.75 inches, this ...   May 12, 2012 - 1:37 PM
- - delusionz   your car, your call, but i don't agree your sm...   May 13, 2012 - 5:36 AM
- - presure2   match, do some research. the cast elbow and large ...   May 13, 2012 - 7:09 AM
- - qatar11   PSA Moto-IQ Article on Exhaust /PSA   May 13, 2012 - 8:14 AM
- - match220   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 13, 2012 - 12...   May 13, 2012 - 11:16 AM
- - match220   delusionz and pressure2, I just read your comments...   May 13, 2012 - 7:03 PM
- - delusionz   4 words... mild steel & ceramic coating   May 15, 2012 - 1:21 AM
- - match220   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 14, 2012 - 8...   May 15, 2012 - 4:40 AM


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