 95 celica ST 7afe engine swap to Beams 3sge |
 May 24, 2012 - 9:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 24, '12 From united states, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Hello, i am planning to do a small project engine swap on my 95 Celica ST from the US. I see lots of Forums that indicated on a 3SGTE swap into the 6 gen ST, yet i have many doubts on the technicality of the swap due to several problems: replacing transmission, engine mounts replacement, shift cable, smog emission regulation, maintenance!, etc. I then look at other engine option swap like Silvertop 4age 20 valve engine but it is only 160hp. What i want relatively out of this engine swap project is to have "minimal" problems and yet "reliable/powerful". I was looking at the 200hp Beams 3SGE economical natural aspirated engine and sure looks tempting. Several questions: i see many forums on swapping the Beams into their "GT" model which has all the right mounting and assembly in compatibility for the swap. I know on the ST, the engine mounts are totally different. Has anyone done this kind of swap in their ST? Will a fully healthy Beams engine ship from Japan pass US smog regulations? If so, what are the crucial points i need to watch out for and what parts do i need to replace? I am also turning the automatic into a manual as well. (If i am going to go into this project, "i will be getting a full front clip with manual transmission imported here"). If i get the full front clip i have all the parts and mounts for the picking! Well any body out there that can help me out on this topic i am greatly appreciative! I LOVE MY CELICA and kept it in awesome conditon, i will post some pictures up when i get a chance.
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May 24, 2012 - 9:48 PM
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In my opinion the beams swap is no less technically involved than a gte swap. They are both s-series block and you will therefore run into the same problem with the mounts.Furthermore an st celica would need a new transmission no matter which engine you go with.
Beams engines were never sold in the states and do not have obd II wired in. This means that it wont pass smog. The most common way around this is to swap a pre '95 celica, since those don't need to be emissions tested. --------------------  |
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May 25, 2012 - 12:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE (enderswift @ May 24, 2012 - 10:48 PM)  In my opinion the beams swap is no less technically involved than a gte swap. They are both s-series block and you will therefore run into the same problem with the mounts.Furthermore an st celica would need a new transmission no matter which engine you go with. Beams engines were never sold in the states and do not have obd II wired in. This means that it wont pass smog. The most common way around this is to swap a pre '95 celica, since those don't need to be emissions tested. my beams clip i'm pretty sure has OBD2... just saying... --------------------  |
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foshojerry 95 celica ST 7afe engine swap to Beams 3sge May 24, 2012 - 9:40 PM
foshojerry QUOTE (enderswift @ May 24, 2012 - 10... May 24, 2012 - 9:52 PM foshojerry sorry new user, learning how to reply, i see..the ... May 24, 2012 - 9:58 PM enderswift 1996 was the year all manufacturers were required ... May 24, 2012 - 10:03 PM foshojerry i see thank you for that info, hmm i do though hav... May 24, 2012 - 10:10 PM foshojerry thank you again, makes more sense May 24, 2012 - 10:15 PM enderswift If you buy a clip then you can use its transmissio... May 24, 2012 - 10:17 PM mkernz22 Welcome to the forum, first off. Secondly, definit... May 24, 2012 - 10:20 PM foshojerry niiice, things are looking good so far, sure will ... May 24, 2012 - 10:34 PM mkernz22 It's probably going to be a lot more than ... May 24, 2012 - 10:41 PM foshojerry guesstimated price? May 24, 2012 - 10:46 PM mkernz22 I couldn't tell you. Most places won't do ... May 24, 2012 - 10:48 PM foshojerry is it because of legal and technical issues? hmmm,... May 24, 2012 - 10:53 PM mkernz22 I'm honestly not sure, they usually only swap ... May 24, 2012 - 10:56 PM Smaay first off OP, why dont you get more specific on yo... May 25, 2012 - 12:17 AM ricochet1490 Bonzai lives in CA, how did he and the original ow... May 25, 2012 - 12:21 AM CAcelica29 QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ May 25, 2012 - 1... May 25, 2012 - 8:22 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ May 25, 2012 - 1... May 25, 2012 - 3:03 PM kurt95gt Do none obd2 cars neex to pass smog in cali?
an if... May 25, 2012 - 12:31 AM foshojerry good points whoomp whoomp, can't pass smog spe... May 25, 2012 - 12:47 AM richee3 The BEAMS does have OBDII but forget about ever us... May 25, 2012 - 6:08 AM Smaay i live in Lancaster CA, about 30 miles north of yo... May 25, 2012 - 11:21 AM foshojerry The dream of having a jdm engine is fading quickly... May 25, 2012 - 5:00 PM Smaay well first off, if your celica is an auto then it ... May 25, 2012 - 5:49 PM enderswift QUOTE The BEAMS does have OBDII but forget about e... May 25, 2012 - 5:51 PM foshojerry Good stuff Smaay, koo koo i will hit you up when i... May 25, 2012 - 9:26 PM enderswift QUOTE (foshojerry @ May 25, 2012 - 10... May 25, 2012 - 9:42 PM kurt95gt Look up my thread to while your at it
Im in the p... May 25, 2012 - 10:47 PM foshojerry hard getting a s54 manual transmission to find for... May 26, 2012 - 3:10 PM mkernz22 QUOTE (foshojerry @ May 26, 2012 - 4... May 26, 2012 - 7:36 PM foshojerry my mistake the e153 manual, the axel, dun dun dun May 26, 2012 - 9:33 PM ricochet1490 QUOTE (foshojerry @ May 26, 2012 - 4... May 26, 2012 - 10:11 PM |
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