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post May 25, 2012 - 1:55 PM
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Car:
1997 Toyota Celica GT

Location:
Central California(It's pretty hot nowadays since it's hitting summer)

When I started to notice the overheating problem:
My car ran with no over heating problem until AFTER I replaced both the ECT sensors because I had a P0115 CEL code. When I had the code my car would start then idle rough and then stall. So I bought an OBD2 CEL reader and I had the P0115 code. So I replaced both the ECT sensors and the CEL went away. The next day I was driving to Fresno(45 min drive). It drove ok(but I'm not sure because I didn't keep an eye on the gauge) until I started the car again about 6 hours later. At first it was at the correct temperature until about 15 min into the drive and I noticed it jumped up to 70% and back down. That was how and when I started the notice the over heating problem.

Problem:
Overheats once the car has been driven for about 30-40 min. My normal operating temperature is about 45%. When it starts to over heat. It'll jump up to about 65-70% then back down to about 50%. Then slowly to 45% again. Then like after another min it'll jump back up and repeat the process.

I noticed that when I was at a stop. The fan kicked in and the temp gauge jumped up to about 55% then slowly up to 70% then back down to 50% again.

EDIT: Just got back from testing my car and it seems to like to heat up to about 60% right until the fan kicks in. It'll drop to 45% then immediately and slowly climb back up to 60% and then stays there until the fan turns off. It'll slowly crawl back down to 45%. And it repeats itself. I'm thinking I might just have a faulty Coolant Temp Sensor, the one that goes to the ECU and not to the Dash. This was all done while the car was idling. Any ideas?

What I've done so far in order:
1st- Replaced both ECT sensors. 2nd- Replaced thermostat. 3rd- Replaced upper radiator hose. 4th- Flushed out the cooling system. 5th- Bled it out correctly. 6th- Replaced the radiator cap & bled it again. 7th- Checked for leaks, there were none. Coolant level stays the same.

EDIT #2: Ok. So here's an UPDATE. So. I let my car idle and heat up to about 70% and I just let it idle. It kept jumping when the fan turns on and off so I decided to unplug the sensor/switch so that the fan will always be on. When I did that trick. The gauge went down to about 45% and stayed there and never climbed or jump?

When it's connected. The fan will turn on for about 2-5 seconds max. I know that's too short. I think that's why I'm getting these problems. My fan is just not turning and staying on for the right amount of time. What I did was replaced the radiator and the fan switch. So I don't know why the fan isn't staying on for the right amount of time? Any ideas?


EDIT #3: Ok so I finally took it into a shop to test it out and they said my car is not overheating but the ECT unit isn't grounded properly because I had teflon tape on the threads. So I bought a new ECT sensor and installed it without the teflon tape. Results are NOTHING! The only relief is that it's not overheating at all. The gauge on the cluster is saying it's over heating but it really isn't. At least that's according to the mech I took it to. Any ideas about the ECT, PCM, and etc.???

This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Jul 18, 2012 - 7:21 PM


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post May 25, 2012 - 3:04 PM
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The two in green are definitely coolant temp sensors, I believe one is for the ECU and one for the gauge cluster. The one in yellow is the oil pressure sensor, if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while since I've had a look at a 5S and a whole lot longer since I've seen a 7A.


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post May 27, 2012 - 2:20 AM
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QUOTE (richee3 @ May 25, 2012 - 3:04 PM) *
The two in green are definitely coolant temp sensors, I believe one is for the ECU and one for the gauge cluster. The one in yellow is the oil pressure sensor, if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while since I've had a look at a 5S and a whole lot longer since I've seen a 7A.


Which one is the one that goes to the gauge cluster? And which one is the one that goes to the ecu?


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Posts in this topic
- ILoveMySilly97   Car is STILL overheating   May 25, 2012 - 1:55 PM
- - richee3   Does it fluctuate like this regardless of whether ...   May 25, 2012 - 2:24 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (richee3 @ May 25, 2012 - 3:24...   May 25, 2012 - 2:39 PM
- - zfjohnson07   sounds like the thermostat, if it gets hot then yo...   May 25, 2012 - 2:41 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ May 25, 2012 - 2...   May 25, 2012 - 2:51 PM
- - richee3   Do you have a picture of where the sensors are tha...   May 25, 2012 - 2:48 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (richee3 @ May 25, 2012 - 2:48...   May 25, 2012 - 3:00 PM
- - richee3   The two in green are definitely coolant temp senso...   May 25, 2012 - 3:04 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (richee3 @ May 25, 2012 - 3:04...   May 27, 2012 - 2:20 AM
- - zfjohnson07   maybe you have a small crack you dont know about, ...   May 25, 2012 - 3:21 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ May 25, 2012 - 4...   May 25, 2012 - 3:24 PM
- - zfjohnson07   radiator could be cracked, hose could be cracked, ...   May 25, 2012 - 3:28 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ May 25, 2012 - 4...   May 25, 2012 - 3:35 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   So I popped the hood and checked the engine coolan...   May 25, 2012 - 3:57 PM
- - Special_Edy   A crack anywhere in the cooling system would cause...   May 25, 2012 - 4:04 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ May 25, 2012 - 4...   May 25, 2012 - 4:20 PM
- - zfjohnson07   where did you get the thermostat from? i bought on...   May 25, 2012 - 5:25 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ May 25, 2012 - 6...   May 25, 2012 - 5:56 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ May 25, 2012 - 3...   May 25, 2012 - 6:55 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (Galcobar @ May 25, 2012 - 6:5...   May 26, 2012 - 12:20 PM
- - zfjohnson07   theres flow, but its a little bit smaller, the one...   May 25, 2012 - 6:49 PM
- - Hanyo   It can also be a clogged radiator. Failed water pu...   May 25, 2012 - 11:34 PM
- - Hanyo   You unplug the fan and you run a wire to each one ...   May 26, 2012 - 3:11 PM
- - zfjohnson07   cant he just pull his temp sensor and see if they ...   May 26, 2012 - 8:33 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ May 26, 2012 - 9...   May 26, 2012 - 11:01 PM
- - zfjohnson07   ill show you an easy way tomorrow   May 26, 2012 - 11:06 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Just got back from testing my car and it seems to ...   May 27, 2012 - 12:24 AM
|- - xrayjm   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ May 26, 2012 - 1...   May 27, 2012 - 1:06 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (xrayjm @ May 27, 2012 - 2:06 ...   May 29, 2012 - 1:07 AM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ May 28, 2012 - 1...   May 29, 2012 - 10:12 PM
- - kevinpetch   2 wires sensor for ECU / single wire one for gauge...   May 27, 2012 - 9:10 AM
- - Special_Edy   Well my 94 GT doesnt fluctuate once it reaches ope...   May 27, 2012 - 3:42 PM
- - Galcobar   With the further description, I'd also chime i...   May 27, 2012 - 5:24 PM
- - bsamps4   You should perform a leakdown test. Possibly could...   May 27, 2012 - 6:22 PM
- - trdproven   ^ I did not read the whole thread but it seems lik...   May 28, 2012 - 6:29 AM
- - 199celica   im surprised no one has asked yet but when was the...   May 28, 2012 - 12:47 PM
|- - xrav22   QUOTE (199celica @ May 28, 2012 - 1...   May 28, 2012 - 2:29 PM
- - Special_Edy   The water pump either leaks and makes a bunch of s...   May 28, 2012 - 2:38 PM
- - zfjohnson07   i didnt think of that, that could be it, its alway...   May 28, 2012 - 8:57 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   I don't think most of you guys are reading the...   May 29, 2012 - 12:47 AM
- - delusionz   couldnt tell if its been asked or answered yet but...   May 29, 2012 - 1:53 AM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (delusionz @ May 29, 2012 - 1...   May 29, 2012 - 2:22 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ May 29, 2012 - 1...   May 29, 2012 - 10:25 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (Galcobar @ May 29, 2012 - 10...   May 29, 2012 - 10:35 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   So today I decided to replace my lower radiator ho...   May 29, 2012 - 10:51 PM
- - Redmann813   same problem no fix   May 30, 2012 - 7:15 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Well. I just installed a new radiator fan switch a...   May 30, 2012 - 7:48 PM
- - Redmann813   yea same here n i just put in a new rad.   May 30, 2012 - 8:35 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (Redmann813 @ May 30, 2012 - 8...   May 30, 2012 - 9:56 PM
|- - Special_Edy   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ May 30, 2012 - 1...   May 30, 2012 - 10:51 PM
- - xrayjm   This is why components should be tested prior to r...   May 30, 2012 - 11:08 PM
|- - xrav22   QUOTE (xrayjm @ May 31, 2012 - 12:08...   Jun 1, 2012 - 4:14 PM
- - Galcobar   In your other thread on this issue -- you really s...   Jun 1, 2012 - 5:32 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (Galcobar @ Jun 1, 2012 - 6:32...   Jun 1, 2012 - 6:39 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Jun 1, 2012 - 4...   Jun 2, 2012 - 1:57 AM
- - delusionz   I've just been through the same thing as you, ...   Jun 1, 2012 - 8:41 PM
|- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 1, 2012 - 9:4...   Jun 2, 2012 - 11:54 AM
|- - Redmann813   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 1, 2012 - 8:4...   Jun 11, 2012 - 5:50 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Ok. So here's an UPDATE. So. I let my car idle...   Jun 11, 2012 - 12:05 AM
- - Galcobar   Same idea as has been advanced before -- test the ...   Jun 11, 2012 - 5:11 AM
- - RobbMeeX   Cooler is not necessarily better. This thread is g...   Jun 11, 2012 - 11:35 AM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Woke up this morning and drive the car in town and...   Jun 11, 2012 - 4:22 PM
- - zfjohnson07   sounds like that thermostat, since you put a diffe...   Jun 12, 2012 - 9:08 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Ok. Finally had time to do the switch test and it ...   Jun 16, 2012 - 9:50 PM
- - pandakid   maybe your thermostat is getting stuck, happened t...   Jun 16, 2012 - 10:10 PM
- - Galcobar   Let's start with something simple -- your radi...   Jun 17, 2012 - 3:34 AM
- - delusionz   this is all pointless, tellin u from experience, f...   Jun 26, 2012 - 6:23 PM
- - gts4   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 26, 2012 - 7...   Jun 26, 2012 - 9:05 PM


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