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post Jul 5, 2012 - 11:40 PM
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I' ve been considering this as my build progresses and it's something I want to do after I get the car on the road.... but something I want to do nonetheless. I don't want a terribly high investment but 200+ WHP would be a great feeling.... and this is where I'm looking for expertise outside of mine....

Internals are remaining factory
Looking at going with a supercharger and I don't really like how "cluttered" the engine bay looks with a turbo .... it also isn't as "peaky" and should be more smooth to the power
My initial thought is that I want to keep the stock ECU so I'm assuming I have to stay at about 5psi or so for this to happen?
I'm frankly not sure what the stock beams ecu can handle as far as boost is concerned. Any thoughts?
What are my best tuning options? I want something that is tunable and the toyota ecu not be able to change it (if that makes sense... these things are smart)
I want to keep the CR stock as well. With a proper tune, and the low boost numbers it shouldn't be a big deal I don't think, just gotta watch for knock
Keeping the boost low like that, I'm HOPING that the stock fuel pump is adequate to handle the increased load...
More importantly the injector size of the BEAMS has been debated. The books say 340 cc while the bench test hat the guy did on Daniels injectors reported 400 cc flat. If they are 400cc, I don't think I'll need to upgrade those either... but again, I just don't know.

My biggest questions at the moment are involved around ECU and the tuning, but any and all help would be appreciated


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post Jul 27, 2012 - 10:32 AM
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you need atleast a t28 spec turbo for a 2L, that little t25 size turbo will choke at high rpm where the engine would normally flow more air than the turbo can provide, what you will see is 12psi at 2000rpm and slowly go back 11,10,9,8...0psi by 6000rpm


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- ricochet1490   Boosting Beams   Jul 5, 2012 - 11:40 PM
- - njccmd2002   this will cost you a pretty penny, unfortunately i...   Jul 6, 2012 - 12:07 AM
- - delusionz   doing the quick and dirty, maybe you should ask th...   Jul 6, 2012 - 12:35 AM
- - ricochet1490   The beams head flows better than a gen 3. And I...   Jul 6, 2012 - 9:47 AM
- - Syaoran   First thing you have to consider is the chance of ...   Jul 6, 2012 - 11:08 AM
- - ricochet1490   I want to keep the good qualities of the beams if ...   Jul 6, 2012 - 1:03 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jul 6, 2012 - 2...   Jul 6, 2012 - 1:27 PM
- - ricochet1490   So check mark on the piggyback. Got it. Now it sho...   Jul 6, 2012 - 1:43 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jul 6, 2012 - 2...   Jul 6, 2012 - 2:48 PM
- - delusionz   Yeah forget the high compression, even a stock gen...   Jul 6, 2012 - 3:06 PM
- - ricochet1490   As per toyo diy, the caldina turbo and the beams h...   Jul 6, 2012 - 5:07 PM
- - Syaoran   I insist, what you want from the beams isn't t...   Jul 6, 2012 - 5:20 PM
- - richee3   Nobody is arguing that the 3S-GTE is better than t...   Jul 6, 2012 - 5:42 PM
- - ricochet1490   Dan you pretty much pegged it. Lol thanks buddy   Jul 6, 2012 - 6:03 PM
- - Smaay   you guys and your Boners for BEAMS. Im still not i...   Jul 6, 2012 - 6:50 PM
- - ricochet1490   Smaay, Thanks for the rod insight.... I almost d...   Jul 6, 2012 - 7:39 PM
- - Syaoran   QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 6, 2012 - 6:42 ...   Jul 6, 2012 - 8:16 PM
- - ricochet1490   So I learned today... to help answer some question...   Jul 8, 2012 - 9:27 PM
- - Neon90424   I thought caldina rods were made of cheese... Seem...   Jul 16, 2012 - 6:38 AM
- - ricochet1490   the trouble for me has been finding either an afte...   Jul 16, 2012 - 9:28 AM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Jul 16, 2012 - 9...   Jul 16, 2012 - 10:24 AM
- - ricochet1490   triple post   Jul 16, 2012 - 9:29 AM
- - Syaoran   Tuning a car isn't that hard, ESPECIALLY when ...   Jul 16, 2012 - 11:24 AM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jul 16, 2012 - 11:2...   Jul 18, 2012 - 9:12 PM
- - 3WayStunna   Think ill keep my eye on this thread; See how it d...   Jul 16, 2012 - 11:25 AM
- - Neon90424   theres a booosted Altezza down here...boosted blac...   Jul 18, 2012 - 7:25 PM
- - Syaoran   The e-manage works on practically any car. You jus...   Jul 18, 2012 - 9:42 PM
- - SwissFerdi   The supercharger idea seems interesting to me, bec...   Jul 23, 2012 - 3:32 PM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jul 23, 2012 - 3...   Jul 23, 2012 - 5:07 PM
|- - Syaoran   A supercharger isn't better or safer than a tu...   Jul 24, 2012 - 11:02 AM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jul 24, 2012 - 11:0...   Jul 24, 2012 - 11:39 AM
- - KAOS   Very interested to see how this turns out.   Jul 24, 2012 - 12:59 PM
- - ricochet1490   what do the pros think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Br...   Jul 26, 2012 - 5:58 PM
- - ricochet1490   better yet.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...   Jul 26, 2012 - 10:52 PM
- - delusionz   you need atleast a t28 spec turbo for a 2L, that l...   Jul 27, 2012 - 10:32 AM
- - delusionz   a regular t28bb non-rs would be best bet for a tur...   Jul 27, 2012 - 10:52 AM
- - ricochet1490   Delusionz - I wish we had a "thank" butt...   Jul 27, 2012 - 8:02 PM
- - delusionz   http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/turbo...   Jul 29, 2012 - 8:21 PM
- - Syaoran   Here's an item you could look into: http://ww...   Aug 4, 2012 - 8:35 PM
- - Neon90424   I did the same thing have the same manifold, order...   Aug 6, 2012 - 12:58 AM
- - 3WayStunna   I would take a read at this mans testimonial...And...   Aug 6, 2012 - 3:58 PM
- - ricochet1490   links already posted on page 1. read them both. Bu...   Aug 6, 2012 - 9:56 PM
|- - 3WayStunna   QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Aug 6, 2012 - 9...   Aug 8, 2012 - 10:15 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   http://www.mr2.com/forums/beams-parts-swap...et-up...   Sep 28, 2012 - 6:32 PM
- - ricochet1490   holy shat..... i'm speecheless   Sep 28, 2012 - 7:03 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   that would be nice!! for $3,600 plus ...   Sep 28, 2012 - 11:29 PM
- - njccmd2002   after so much money he quit? he spent years devel...   Sep 30, 2012 - 8:54 AM
- - richee3   He's not quitting. He's going bigger.   Sep 30, 2012 - 9:20 AM
- - njccmd2002   I think hes going to sell it... but then again may...   Sep 30, 2012 - 9:36 PM
- - Smaay   that is not worth it to me. i wouldnt spend anywhe...   Oct 1, 2012 - 8:32 AM
- - kurt95gt   Seems like a lot of work to end up with a 3sgte wi...   Oct 1, 2012 - 9:45 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   GEEZ ALL YOU DEBBIE DOWNERS, we know you can spend...   Oct 1, 2012 - 12:19 PM
- - Smaay   i dont know what everyone fascination with the BEA...   Oct 1, 2012 - 3:04 PM
- - ricochet1490   They could have made it out of aluminum.... you an...   Oct 1, 2012 - 6:41 PM
- - kurt95gt   The v6 is more about the two lol It feels a lot f...   Oct 1, 2012 - 8:05 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yea they could of made it aluminum. Also to my sur...   Oct 3, 2012 - 11:22 AM


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