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post Feb 25, 2004 - 4:33 PM
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I had a 87 ST, and that was a fast, zippy car. I had to sell it and now i bouht an 95 ST. I assumed it would be faster or at least the same speed. However it is slow, a 87 is much faster in accelaration. Do I have a probelm with the engine? Or is this just the speed of the 6th gen STs??
 
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post Feb 26, 2004 - 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM)
ok so it must a been a gt, they sit at 160 HP...this guy had a full exhaust, and no doubt a lil more engine stuff to go along.....so i'm thinking the exhaust has to at least add 20hp so thats 180 HP bottom line.....i'm estimating this 7th gen was around 180-195HP...i dunno..but the only complaint against my ST is the freaking REDLINE how the heck do i get rid of it or make a switch to turn off my fule cut off....cause i got beat my a SVT focus just cause my redline was so low that he caugh back up when i shifted outta 1st into 2nd....thats where i lose races is cause the redline is too low


7th gen Celica GT is 140hp stock. An exhaust ain't adding 20hp. 15% power gain with an exhaust on a 4cyl? Maybe with some stickers on there. A 96 ST has 105 HP stock. Let's add 8 years worth of wear and tear on the engine, and you're sub-100. Add your CAI and maybe you're at 100 again. Add your 2.5" exhaust to a 1.8L N/A engine and you're sub-100 again. Add heavy 17s and you slowed your car some more... plus any other visual mods you have on there weighing it down.

If you were racing a 7th gen with 195HP you'd KNOW it -- with the ****tiest driver in the world, as long as he steps on the gas and made his shifts...he'd win. there is no way you'd take him, let alone obliterate him. My guess is he wasn't even racing. Sorry bro.

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- belizecelica   ST very slow   Feb 25, 2004 - 4:33 PM
- - Jabberwock   The 87 ST had a very different engine. I think it...   Feb 25, 2004 - 4:54 PM
- - ghostdog   your old car had this: http://www.toyotacelicaonl...   Feb 25, 2004 - 5:50 PM
- - belizecelica   Well why did Toyota downgrade to the 7afe?   Feb 25, 2004 - 5:53 PM
- - LatinKraze   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Feb 25, 2004 - 1:54 PM) The 95...   Feb 25, 2004 - 6:05 PM
- - Kwanza26   The 4th gen ST's had the 3sfe. I personally t...   Feb 25, 2004 - 6:55 PM
- - wind   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 11:55 PM) Th...   Feb 25, 2004 - 7:05 PM
- - playr158   well i know the st is supposed to be slow, but let...   Feb 25, 2004 - 8:53 PM
- - macavely   QUOTE (playr158 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 9:53 PM) well i ...   Feb 25, 2004 - 9:05 PM
- - Uppitycracker   Well there is a certain point where driving abilit...   Feb 25, 2004 - 9:20 PM
- - snadman   Even if he had crappy shifting, I promise it wasn...   Feb 25, 2004 - 9:26 PM
- - slipgun   I actualy out drove a GT once too, I dono if they ...   Feb 25, 2004 - 9:31 PM
- - playr158   ok so it must a been a gt, they sit at 160 HP...th...   Feb 25, 2004 - 9:36 PM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE (playr158 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM) ok ...   Feb 25, 2004 - 10:28 PM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (playr158 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM) ok ...   Feb 26, 2004 - 12:18 AM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (playr158 @ Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM) but the ...   Feb 26, 2004 - 12:29 AM
- - FallenHero   and GT-S's normally make 160ish at the wheels....   Feb 26, 2004 - 1:29 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Feb 26, 2004 - 6:29 AM) and GT...   Feb 26, 2004 - 2:21 AM
- - BenMMellor   It's not a slow car by any means.. I got done ...   Feb 26, 2004 - 10:40 AM
- - belizecelica   Well...maybe ill have to give the 'ol ST a tun...   Feb 26, 2004 - 11:39 AM
- - bustown   the 7th gen celica gt-s has 180 hp the matrix h...   Feb 26, 2004 - 5:49 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (bustown @ Feb 26, 2004 - 10:49 PM) the 7th ...   Feb 26, 2004 - 8:43 PM
- - bustown   sorry this forum is english 101   Feb 26, 2004 - 10:22 PM
- - Coomer   I know that my ST was slow. I ran a 17.7 at the tr...   Feb 26, 2004 - 10:43 PM
- - toyotaspeed_90   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Feb 26, 2004 - 6:29 AM) and GT...   Feb 27, 2004 - 2:13 AM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Feb 27, 2004 - 12:13 AM) Q...   Feb 27, 2004 - 2:56 AM
- - toyotaspeed_90   & toyota is known for overstating HP.....   Feb 27, 2004 - 3:08 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (belizecelica @ Feb 26, 2004 - 12:39 PM) Wel...   Feb 27, 2004 - 3:54 AM
- - ghostdog   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Feb 27, 2004 - 2:13 AM) QU...   Feb 27, 2004 - 11:40 AM
- - belizecelica   My friend has a 98 kia sephia bone stock, and his ...   Feb 27, 2004 - 12:13 PM
- - ghostdog   maybe their gearing is lower. because stats-wise t...   Feb 27, 2004 - 12:36 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Feb 27, 2004 - 8:08 AM) ...   Feb 27, 2004 - 12:48 PM
- - FallenHero   wow might that be the dyno chart for a GT-S???? A...   Feb 27, 2004 - 3:58 PM
- - abatardi   Thanks Kwanza for the dyno chart. Toyota is not...   Feb 27, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (abatardi @ Feb 27, 2004 - 2:05 PM) Thanks K...   Feb 27, 2004 - 5:17 PM
- - wind   that dyno is impressive.... look at the jump at 60...   Feb 27, 2004 - 7:53 PM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (wind @ Feb 27, 2004 - 5:53 PM) but... ahem....   Feb 27, 2004 - 9:49 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (wind @ Feb 28, 2004 - 12:53 AM) but......   Feb 27, 2004 - 11:49 PM


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