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post Oct 10, 2012 - 2:11 PM
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I finally found some time to assemble my DIYPNP kit today. :thumbup
The assembly process wasn't too bad. Everything was clearly labeled and the instructions were easy to follow. But if youre reading this and you bought an MSPNP, consider yourself lucky as soldering lots of very tiny components too up most of the day (and I'm still not done!).

I started out with this:


And after a few hours here is where I'm at!



This is the kit I'm using.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-...-kit-p-384.html

Along with the sequential injection mod.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-...-kit-p-386.html


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post Oct 12, 2012 - 5:57 AM
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i havent seen any threads in regards to tuning, since it can all be done DIY, it would be good when you guys can to share some information about your tuning,

eg,

software - tunerstudio?
additional sensors - eg bosch wideband
tips for afr target auto tune - partial load? full load? how much boost to run?
listening for knock and setting ignition timing
setting fuel/ign trims


is this something we should even be getting into without some sort of tuning school?


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post Oct 12, 2012 - 3:31 PM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Oct 12, 2012 - 6:57 AM) *
i havent seen any threads in regards to tuning, since it can all be done DIY, it would be good when you guys can to share some information about your tuning,

eg,

software - tunerstudio?
additional sensors - eg bosch wideband
tips for afr target auto tune - partial load? full load? how much boost to run?
listening for knock and setting ignition timing
setting fuel/ign trims


is this something we should even be getting into without some sort of tuning school?



TunerStudio is more than good enough, and it's free. If you don't have a serial port in your tuning laptop, a USB-to-serial adapter will be needed and there's many around for that, however there's only one (the most expensive one at RadioShack) that won't give you any issues. The cheaper ones work but will sometimes simply not want to connect your Laptop to the MS.

I have an MS-II. In retrospect I should've gotten a MS-III and will most likely upgrade eventually for the additional stuff (if my goals so require it, for now MS-II is enough).

Given you no longer need to use ANY of your factory sensors when you go MS-II or MS-III (MSPNP will require all stock sensors minus AFM if applicable (Gen 2s have AFM which can be removed when MSPNP is installed) but you can get aftermarket sensors that can be calibrated to work flawlessly since the software is the same as MS-II)

I want to do a distributorless ignition setup but for now a hybrid, wasted spark setup will have to do. I'm currently running the stock distro in my 5S, which isn't compatible at all. For a 3S, I'd get the Electromotive Tec3 crank trigger wheel setup and use the sensor it comes with in the package. There's a company that sells a crank and cam trigger wheel setup with 1zz coil on plug coil packs for full-sequential capabilities... you guys have it all.

Once I go boost I'm going to adapt a GM IAT sensor to my cold pipe and I'll try to put in a GM knock sensor in the stock location if possible. I want automatic knock retard when I go boosted, without having to purchase additional units/modules.

As for widebands, the best one to go with is the Innovate LC-1, it's proven to work and is VERY compatible with MS. It's the one they sell on their website, even. You can get a genuine controller, gauge and sensor combo on eBay for about 170 bucks too, so it's cheaper than most of its competition.

MS-II, MSPNP and MS-III all have target AFR auto-tune capabilities.

As for tuning, unless you've done tuning before I wouldn't touch the maps. They're basically the same as stock 3S-GTE maps on the MSPNP unit. I personally haven't tuned anything myself, I have a friend that does tuning for a living and wanted to learn how to use TunerStudio so I let him do it, and he's currently tuning my Celica.


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Posts in this topic
- lagos   My DIYPNP install!   Oct 10, 2012 - 2:11 PM
- - Smaay   what is it going to be running?   Oct 10, 2012 - 2:57 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 10, 2012 - 3:57 P...   Oct 10, 2012 - 3:04 PM
- - Syaoran   I love MS. Did you get the JimStim?   Oct 11, 2012 - 2:07 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 11, 2012 - 3:07...   Oct 11, 2012 - 2:42 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (lagos @ Oct 11, 2012 - 3:42 P...   Oct 11, 2012 - 6:58 PM
- - Batman722   Art, you are one crazy mother trucker.   Oct 11, 2012 - 8:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 11, 2012 - 7:58...   Oct 12, 2012 - 1:05 AM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (lagos @ Oct 12, 2012 - 2:05 A...   Oct 12, 2012 - 1:52 AM
- - delusionz   i havent seen any threads in regards to tuning, si...   Oct 12, 2012 - 5:57 AM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (delusionz @ Oct 12, 2012 - 6...   Oct 12, 2012 - 3:31 PM
- - jcbass7   Art, I am stoked to see this thread come up. I wi...   Oct 12, 2012 - 10:25 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (delusionz @ Oct 12, 2012 - 6...   Oct 12, 2012 - 11:39 AM
- - delusionz   So is the base map good to drive on after an AFR a...   Oct 12, 2012 - 6:23 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE If you don't have a serial port in your ...   Oct 12, 2012 - 7:05 PM
- - Syaoran   QUOTE (delusionz @ Oct 12, 2012 - 7...   Oct 12, 2012 - 8:48 PM
|- - rave2n   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 12, 2012 - 8:48...   Oct 16, 2012 - 7:22 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 12, 2012 - 9:48...   Oct 12, 2012 - 8:59 PM
- - Syaoran   I'm assuming you followed this? http://www.diy...   Oct 12, 2012 - 9:41 PM
- - soulshadow   You have to set the correct com port and you have ...   Oct 13, 2012 - 11:07 PM
- - soulshadow   Baud Rate = 115200 Data Bits = 8 Parity = None st...   Oct 13, 2012 - 11:14 PM
- - Matt_Cramer   The settings sound OK. At this point, it looks lik...   Oct 15, 2012 - 2:20 PM
- - ricochet1490   This topic sparks my interest.   Oct 15, 2012 - 5:59 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Matt_Cramer @ Oct 15, 2012 - 3...   Oct 15, 2012 - 8:28 PM
- - soulshadow   You did Jumper the board for programming........r...   Oct 16, 2012 - 12:36 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (soulshadow @ Oct 16, 2012 - 1...   Oct 16, 2012 - 1:00 AM
- - soulshadow   I take it that your board is getting 12V+ from you...   Oct 16, 2012 - 11:38 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (soulshadow @ Oct 17, 2012 - 12...   Oct 17, 2012 - 12:14 AM
- - soulshadow   Good Luck!   Oct 17, 2012 - 3:53 AM
- - playr158   :bump: What happened to this! hopefully its ...   Jan 2, 2013 - 9:26 AM
- - lagos   I had trouble loading the firmware as stated above...   Jan 2, 2013 - 10:29 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Any updates?   Apr 16, 2013 - 11:03 AM
- - Syaoran   Are you using the stock distributor's sensor f...   Apr 16, 2013 - 5:49 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Apr 16, 2013 - 6:49...   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:30 PM
- - Syaoran   Yes, I'm using MS2. We tapped it directly at t...   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:55 PM
- - Syaoran   I also forgot to mention you'd need 2 BIP373 i...   Apr 16, 2013 - 9:03 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Apr 16, 2013 - 9:55...   Apr 16, 2013 - 9:36 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 16, 2013 - 9:36 P...   Apr 16, 2013 - 11:00 PM
- - Syaoran   I forgot your DIYPNP is for the 3SGTE, right?   Apr 16, 2013 - 9:45 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Apr 16, 2013 - 10:4...   Apr 16, 2013 - 11:52 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 17, 2013 - 12:52 ...   Apr 17, 2013 - 12:19 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 16, 2013 - 11:52 ...   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:59 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ Apr 17, 2013 - 10...   Apr 17, 2013 - 10:08 PM
- - lagos   Small update on the project. https://www.youtub...   May 14, 2013 - 7:34 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Nice. Dyno run soon?   May 14, 2013 - 7:37 PM
- - lagos   More like street tune, soon.   May 14, 2013 - 8:56 PM
- - Special_Edy   There may be some useful info about the distributo...   May 15, 2013 - 6:39 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ May 15, 2013 - 7...   May 15, 2013 - 10:59 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE (lagos @ May 15, 2013 - 10:59 ...   May 15, 2013 - 11:06 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ May 15, 2013 - 11:59 ...   May 16, 2013 - 4:57 PM
|- - jcbass7   QUOTE (lagos @ May 15, 2013 - 10:59 ...   May 16, 2013 - 7:33 PM
- - playr158   Nice work Art!   May 15, 2013 - 1:46 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (jcbass7 @ May 16, 2013 - 8:33...   May 17, 2013 - 6:58 PM


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