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post Oct 23, 2012 - 12:42 AM
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http://speed-source.net/?wpsc-product=toyota-engine-mounts

They don't seem to have an application specific to our generation. Being the kind of bushing it is I'm thinking there should be one compatible, like perhaps the MR2 NA ones. Anybody know?


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post Oct 24, 2012 - 7:50 PM
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Better, yes and no. Just like the kirks you'll get a lot of vibration until they break in but IMO these will vibrate more because there is no soft rubber to absorb anything. And in that regard they'll hold the motor in place a little better with very little movement.

Easier to install, yes and no. Either way you have to remove the mounts, with the kirks, just add, with SS you have to cut/remove all the rubber and ring. Both stick out past the mount so putting them in isn't bad but not as simple as without.

I've have kirks and like them. Stiffer than stock and work.
I've installed the SS on someone else's mounts (MR2 w/3rd gen swap) and I don't know first hand how they are compared.


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post Oct 25, 2012 - 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Oct 24, 2012 - 8:50 PM) *
Better, yes and no. Just like the kirks you'll get a lot of vibration until they break in but IMO these will vibrate more because there is no soft rubber to absorb anything. And in that regard they'll hold the motor in place a little better with very little movement.

Easier to install, yes and no. Either way you have to remove the mounts, with the kirks, just add, with SS you have to cut/remove all the rubber and ring. Both stick out past the mount so putting them in isn't bad but not as simple as without.

I've have kirks and like them. Stiffer than stock and work.
I've installed the SS on someone else's mounts (MR2 w/3rd gen swap) and I don't know first hand how they are compared.



As I stated before the kirk mounts are softer than the full poly mounts. It's better for comfort that way, but not as good for performance. In a FWD application it's much more vital to keep the wheels on the ground, which means as little engine movement as possible. However there's a threshold to how much NVH each individual can stand. I installed the kirk front and rear in my previous Celica, and it was just fine for me, but there was room for improvement since the engine moved anyways, just not as much as before. However everything rattled much more than before, and compared to the performance I felt it wasn't worth it.

This time I think I'm trying the full poly inserts and see how it goes. MR2 is different from the Celica and the NVH transmission isn't the same as the chassis isn't the same. The Celica's cabin is a bit more insulated from the engine than the MR2's, and that makes a difference (I've driven MR2s with Kirk inserts and it was much worse than my 5G with kirk inserts. Both were 5SFE)


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- Syaoran   Speed Source Polyurethane Engine Mounts   Oct 23, 2012 - 12:42 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   all MR2 NA from 91-96 come with s54 transmission s...   Oct 24, 2012 - 2:43 PM
- - Tigawoods   im a bit confused as to the difference between the...   Oct 24, 2012 - 2:53 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Oct 24, 2012 - 3...   Oct 24, 2012 - 3:06 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Oct 24, 2012 - 4...   Oct 24, 2012 - 6:28 PM
- - Tigawoods   I would asume the speed source ones, since all Pol...   Oct 24, 2012 - 7:03 PM
- - Syaoran   The kirkosaurus ones work in unison with the stock...   Oct 24, 2012 - 7:46 PM
- - Batman722   Better, yes and no. Just like the kirks you'll...   Oct 24, 2012 - 7:50 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Oct 24, 2012 - 8...   Oct 25, 2012 - 12:52 AM
- - Tigawoods   damn this thread. now I am considering these. I do...   Oct 25, 2012 - 7:09 AM
- - Syaoran   I'm still trying to get a confirmation from a ...   Oct 25, 2012 - 8:53 AM
- - Tigawoods   I had somewhat expected slight vague responses. ...   Oct 26, 2012 - 9:04 AM
- - Syaoran   I'll go ahead and ask on the MR2 forums. If yo...   Oct 26, 2012 - 9:27 AM
- - Tigawoods   I'll measure them tonight, when im back home   Oct 26, 2012 - 9:38 AM
- - Syaoran   Awesome, thanks.   Oct 26, 2012 - 10:46 AM
- - Tigawoods   I forgot my fine measure ruler at my apartment so ...   Oct 26, 2012 - 9:38 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Oct 26, 2012 - 10...   Oct 27, 2012 - 11:06 AM
- - Takumi-FujiWaraST   If the mounts rubber isn't completely ruined/c...   Oct 29, 2012 - 4:40 PM
- - Syaoran   My rear mount is completely gone, sadly. I'd h...   Oct 29, 2012 - 7:23 PM
- - Tigawoods   Im not really sure they will fit here is anothe...   Oct 31, 2012 - 7:59 AM
- - Syaoran   If the bushings are bigger than out mounts, you ca...   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:36 AM
|- - Tigawoods   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 31, 2012 - 11:3...   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:53 AM
- - Syaoran   The bigger SpeedSource bushing theoretically trans...   Oct 31, 2012 - 9:10 PM
- - Tigawoods   I want to go with the speed source ones but they a...   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:03 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Oct 31, 2012 - 11...   Nov 1, 2012 - 12:46 AM
- - Tigawoods   found out this was discussed in the past http://ww...   Nov 1, 2012 - 9:58 AM
- - Syaoran   Good find, I couldn't find that before posting...   Nov 1, 2012 - 11:19 AM
- - Tigawoods   Ive read so many different things i dont even know...   Nov 5, 2012 - 12:40 PM
- - Syaoran   Well for now I think I'm going to just buy a s...   Nov 5, 2012 - 7:42 PM
- - 99gt3sge   i used the ones for a st185 on my friends 6th gen,...   Nov 7, 2012 - 12:30 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   i wrote to speed source a few days ago. then tried...   Apr 15, 2017 - 2:11 AM


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