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post Nov 24, 2012 - 12:30 AM
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So I originally built a 58 Red LED third brake light and was dissatisfied with the result-








It was only about as bright as the OEM incandescent so it was back to the drawingboard.

I finally had time today to solder this together, it uses 97 5mm White LEDs(the maximum amount I could cram in). The current draw is apx. 9 watts and the service life is apx. 100,000 hours. It is bright like headlight bright. woot.gif biggrin.gif





First Layer of 57 LEDs-







Second layer of 40 LEDs, Finished!!!!!!-











And finally Video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh44hn_EBz4


If there is enough interest I may make some of these for 6gc members as well as some of the other exterior lights.

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post Dec 9, 2012 - 11:33 PM
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Interesting idea. Did you calculate the current flow thru each LED to utilize the proper size current limiting resiztor and optimize the output of the LED? I've seen many circuits that use the wrong sized resistors, this leads to dim LED or worse, overdriving the LED's and damaging them. (Will dim or just not work)

Also, based on the picture of the side marker light on your Celica, your not in the USA, do you have any restrictions on how bright a light can be? Seems to me that here in the USA, if I have a rear tail lamp as bright as a headlight, I'd probably get a ticket! lol So one like your first design with 50+ LEDS may be a better alternative.


Nice job. wink.gif
post Dec 10, 2012 - 3:28 AM
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QUOTE (broderp @ Dec 10, 2012 - 12:33 AM) *
Interesting idea. Did you calculate the current flow thru each LED to utilize the proper size current limiting resiztor and optimize the output of the LED? I've seen many circuits that use the wrong sized resistors, this leads to dim LED or worse, overdriving the LED's and damaging them. (Will dim or just not work)

Also, based on the picture of the side marker light on your Celica, your not in the USA, do you have any restrictions on how bright a light can be? Seems to me that here in the USA, if I have a rear tail lamp as bright as a headlight, I'd probably get a ticket! lol So one like your first design with 50+ LEDS may be a better alternative.


Nice job. wink.gif

Well, Ive learned alot about LEDs to say the least.
The LEDs are transistored for 14 volts and I lowered the forward voltage a tad so they should never have any problems.(even a whopping 50% power reduction would only drop light output by 10%)
As for the beam of the LEDs, they really do project most of the light in a tight cone. Anyone 1-2 car-lengths directly behind you will see it much more brilliantly(in the video it glitched my camera at about 5 feet) but its still far brighter than stock from any angle.
The only applicable laws that Ive read specify the maximum luminosity of a bulb mounted anywhere on the vehicle(except headlights and brakelights) can be no more than 300 lumens(in my state). This definately falls below 300 lumens and you could even argue that each of the 97 bulbs counts individually. The aim, shape, housing, lens, color and height of the brake light will be unchanged the only thing you are doing is replacing the barbaric incandescent bulb with a more enviromently friendly(and badass) light source. It also uses nearly half the energy and produces about twice the light of the incandescent.

Oh, and I am in the US, I just have JDM fenders and tails.



Now why I havent made much progress. A week and a half ago I did this-



I was in a turn lane and thought I saw the car in front of me go, so I turned and watched three cars go by before I could go. I let out the clutch and nailed the car in front of me(he had stopped ahead) frown.gif. Guess I should of double-checked.


And of course the LED turn signal I was working on at the time was installed inside that turn signal housing. I had to run out into traffic to save it from getting run over(it flew out when the housing disintegrated).

Video of my turn signal functioning after the wreck

I think only 3 leds total stopped working, which were just the wire bending and shorting out(no repairs needed). But the board was cracked into many pieces, held together only by the LEDs and solder. biggrin.gif





Here is my progress on the controller for the sequential turn.




Ive finished the 555 timer, it adjusts from 14hz-58hz.
Working on the three 4017 decade counters which do the sequencing.
The 4081 is just AND gates to make the 4017s count from 1-24 instead of 1-1000


Ive still got to wire in the resistors and some sort of mosfet or transistor to drive each of the 24 channels. I also want to utilize capacitors to fade the LEDs in the sequence out instead of them flashing off.





Finally, Im looking to get some clear LED's that produce red light. I found some that are half the brightness than the white ones I have now but have twice the beam width, so they are approximately 2 times the the lumen output.
I also found some wider angle clears that are apx. 5 times the output I want to order which are about the same price as my current bulbs, along with some 3Watt LEDs(they could probably damage your retinas:D) on heatsinks but those badboys are a $1.25 a piece.
Let me know guys-
would there be interest in a 400 lumen white LED third brake light?
And a 200 lumen red LED version(with clear bulbs)?

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- Special_Edy   LED Third Brake Light   Nov 24, 2012 - 12:30 AM
- - smkr3w   Shweet! What's cost shipped looking like...   Nov 24, 2012 - 12:51 AM
- - Tigawoods   yup. they are awesome. Great job! Id definitel...   Nov 24, 2012 - 8:51 AM
- - diegohiga   very nice   Nov 24, 2012 - 10:54 AM
- - Special_Edy   I made another one- I think I may leave th...   Nov 25, 2012 - 12:15 AM
- - mkernz22   I'd totally love one, but the only problem I w...   Nov 25, 2012 - 2:01 PM
- - Special_Edy   Ok I've updated it with power rails down the s...   Nov 26, 2012 - 3:36 AM
- - Tigawoods   you are doing preface LED turns?? OH LAAAAAWWWD   Nov 26, 2012 - 9:14 PM
- - Special_Edy   I'll just leave this here. We will see ho...   Nov 27, 2012 - 2:21 AM
- - Tigawoods   Could you do single horizontal rows with a row gap...   Nov 27, 2012 - 8:34 AM
- - Special_Edy   Yes Im definitely considering 1W or even 3W LEDS. ...   Nov 28, 2012 - 2:32 AM
- - richee3   Looks great so far! I'm sure it's not ...   Nov 28, 2012 - 10:31 AM
- - Special_Edy   Yes I could do the red LEDs. I would assume you wo...   Nov 28, 2012 - 11:05 AM
- - Nifty   I prefer waterproof LED strips. And you can save A...   Nov 28, 2012 - 4:26 PM
- - Lil-Joe101   I wanna see em lit up, very interested   Nov 28, 2012 - 10:08 PM
- - Special_Edy   Watch the videos in my posts above. I have one lit...   Nov 29, 2012 - 12:00 AM
- - Waynegriffin   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Nov 24, 2012 - 12...   Dec 3, 2012 - 2:21 AM
- - Special_Edy   Yes I still have them, I was planning to make a ba...   Dec 3, 2012 - 11:21 PM
- - Tigawoods   like you ran into a person? or a car   Dec 4, 2012 - 7:23 AM
- - broderp   Interesting idea. Did you calculate the current f...   Dec 9, 2012 - 11:33 PM
|- - Special_Edy   QUOTE (broderp @ Dec 10, 2012 - 12:3...   Dec 10, 2012 - 3:28 AM
- - broderp   Sorry to hear about the accident. That hurts on a...   Dec 10, 2012 - 8:45 AM
- - Special_Edy   Actually I just finished my first semester of coll...   Dec 11, 2012 - 1:05 AM
- - Special_Edy   Ok so here is an update, because I dont have to te...   Dec 14, 2012 - 1:13 AM
- - smkr3w   Holy wiring Batman! Looks great Hope it work...   Dec 14, 2012 - 5:42 AM
- - broderp   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Dec 14, 2012 - 1...   Dec 19, 2012 - 4:37 PM
- - Special_Edy   @ broderp- Yeah all the chips are on the same powe...   Dec 20, 2012 - 2:10 AM
- - Tigawoods   progressing very well! An animation I am curi...   Dec 20, 2012 - 3:19 PM
- - smkr3w   Awesome! Even though you haven't gotten in...   Dec 20, 2012 - 4:39 PM
- - richee3   Any update?   Feb 22, 2013 - 1:59 PM
- - Special_Edy   I havent fooled with it lately, but I was thinking...   Feb 22, 2013 - 10:45 PM
- - Special_Edy   And I ordered a variety of led bulbs to try some o...   May 12, 2013 - 10:05 AM
|- - mgnt232   want one lol. you thinking of making them for the ...   May 12, 2013 - 3:15 PM
- - Special_Edy   Made this GT-4 one today, guess this means I need ...   May 14, 2013 - 12:27 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   That's awesome! I was wandering if you kno...   May 14, 2013 - 8:01 PM
- - JoshuaM   Looks great! And I think there will be a fair ...   May 14, 2013 - 8:29 PM
- - Box   Can you make one that says "GET BACK" or...   May 14, 2013 - 9:27 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   The ones that say toyota and celica look good. The...   May 16, 2013 - 7:03 PM
- - Red123   wow very nice. I want a "celica" brake l...   May 16, 2013 - 7:39 PM
- - mgnt232   yes start selling id buy. like the idea of the cl...   May 17, 2013 - 1:26 AM
- - richee3   You need to make "GTFO" or "STFU....   May 17, 2013 - 6:08 AM
|- - Box   QUOTE (richee3 @ May 17, 2013 - 6:08...   May 17, 2013 - 1:00 PM
- - Bitter   Flashing red lights are a no-no in most states.   May 17, 2013 - 11:45 PM
|- - Box   QUOTE (Bitter @ May 17, 2013 - 11:45...   May 18, 2013 - 12:21 AM
- - CoolZeen   I wonder if anybody actually bought some , or afte...   Dec 24, 2023 - 5:37 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   i could ask someone local if they are willing to d...   Jan 6, 2024 - 6:26 PM
- - CoolZeen   if so ,im down for a CELICA one   Jan 17, 2024 - 9:48 AM


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