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post May 29, 2008 - 11:58 AM
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On a quarter mile at race track X

A ST204 swapped with a 3SGTE 3rd gen + LSD tranny from MR2 (lighter but FWD with LSD)

VS

A ST205 with a 3SGTE 3rd gen (heavier but AWD)

who would normally win? and dont tell me ''well it depends on the driver and blablablablabla''.

I'm talking about perfect conditions, who would smoke who?


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- reko   ST204 3SGTE VS ST205   May 29, 2008 - 11:58 AM
- - 99GT   ST205 owns due to traction.   May 29, 2008 - 12:25 PM
|- - ETNRIDER   QUOTE (99GT @ May 29, 2008 - 12:25 P...   May 29, 2008 - 12:33 PM
- - 808celica   yeah i dont even have to think. unless its a bone ...   May 29, 2008 - 12:31 PM
- - lagos   St205 would be faster in the 1/4 because of awd. S...   May 29, 2008 - 12:43 PM
|- - ETNRIDER   QUOTE (lagos @ May 29, 2008 - 12:43 ...   May 29, 2008 - 12:58 PM
|- - GT4KNG   QUOTE (lagos @ May 29, 2008 - 1:43 P...   May 30, 2008 - 8:39 PM
- - Batman722   I disagree. Jeff with a 185 in his ran a 13.9 at ...   May 29, 2008 - 1:47 PM
|- - Insanity-74   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 7...   May 30, 2008 - 2:56 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 2...   May 29, 2008 - 2:00 PM
- - ETNRIDER   Anyone got any vids of a race like this? I doubt i...   May 29, 2008 - 2:11 PM
- - Defgeph   BPU swapped FWD would win against a BPU ST205. Wei...   May 29, 2008 - 2:24 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 2...   May 29, 2008 - 2:26 PM
- - D-Man   but it's still heavier. The AWD gets better tr...   May 29, 2008 - 2:29 PM
|- - ETNRIDER   QUOTE (D-Man @ May 29, 2008 - 3...   May 29, 2008 - 2:41 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (D-Man @ May 29, 2008 - 3...   May 29, 2008 - 2:39 PM
- - 95celgt   The 6th gen celica acually launches like a bat out...   May 29, 2008 - 2:50 PM
- - delusionz   what the real question is ... is 400 metres really...   May 29, 2008 - 11:32 PM
- - j0e_p3t   both stock and the fwd with lsd under "perfec...   May 30, 2008 - 12:40 AM
- - 3SGTE   Im already loading my gt4 st205 awd on a carrier a...   May 30, 2008 - 2:50 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   stock for stock, or mod for mod 205 will win. im ...   May 30, 2008 - 8:04 AM
- - D-Man   QUOTE (3SGTE @ May 30, 2008 - 2:50 A...   May 30, 2008 - 8:33 AM
- - creis   QUOTE Track was unsuprisingly damp which made for ...   May 30, 2008 - 9:01 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (creis @ May 30, 2008 - 10:01 ...   May 30, 2008 - 12:22 PM
- - ETNRIDER   What is an estimate of the weight difference? I wo...   May 30, 2008 - 9:02 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i raced a vr4 when i was a stock 2nd gen. from a d...   May 30, 2008 - 9:37 AM
- - devilsden97   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 10...   May 30, 2008 - 11:30 AM
|- - ETNRIDER   [/quote] VR4: 3760lbs gt-4: 3298lbs (converted ...   May 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (devilsden97 @ May 30, 2008 - 12...   May 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM
- - devilsden97   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 12...   May 30, 2008 - 11:54 AM
- - j0e_p3t   not only does the swap fwd have a weight advantage...   May 30, 2008 - 1:02 PM
- - devilsden97   honestly there is a very easy solution to this dis...   May 30, 2008 - 1:32 PM
- - lagos   AWD = Rev to 6k - pop the clutch - WIN.   May 30, 2008 - 2:08 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   ^ not with only 255 hp. more jump forward then bog...   May 30, 2008 - 2:33 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 3...   May 30, 2008 - 2:37 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   ^ agreed. lagos did i ever tell you that your awe...   May 30, 2008 - 2:51 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 3...   May 30, 2008 - 3:00 PM
- - scothaniel   I totally agree with Lagos. My swapped 6gc is lig...   May 30, 2008 - 3:04 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 500lbs lighter so wheres all this extra weig...   May 30, 2008 - 6:08 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Rusty @ May 30, 2008 - 7:08 P...   May 30, 2008 - 6:11 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE (lagos @ May 30, 2008 - 4:11 P...   Jun 1, 2008 - 1:02 PM
- - reko   Damn seems like everyone has their own opinion... ...   May 30, 2008 - 6:34 PM
|- - Insanity-74   QUOTE (reko @ May 31, 2008 - 12:34 A...   May 30, 2008 - 6:45 PM
|- - reko   QUOTE (Insanity-74 @ May 30, 2008 ...   May 30, 2008 - 6:57 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE BTW, in that vid the gt-4 hit a 13.9. And th...   May 31, 2008 - 4:22 AM
- - Insanity-74   slightly off topic, but how about a 205 V NSX. 20...   May 31, 2008 - 5:07 AM
- - 3SGTE   Anyway, back on topic!! Woe Woe Woe are...   May 31, 2008 - 12:32 PM
|- - reko   QUOTE (3SGTE @ May 31, 2008 - 1:32 P...   May 31, 2008 - 1:52 PM
- - lubu   The driver must have missed a gear or back down...   May 31, 2008 - 2:16 PM
- - Insanity-74   Never under estimate a tricked out little Civic.   Jun 1, 2008 - 9:54 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   whoever thinks 205's weigh 1500 kg is smoking ...   Jun 1, 2008 - 10:18 PM
- - 6strngs   I think the 205 would win. Jeff's ST185 is a C...   Jun 2, 2008 - 1:17 AM
- - 3s-gte_man   stock 205 and 204 with stock 205 engine and that m...   Jun 2, 2008 - 6:34 AM
- - D-Man   QUOTE (Insanity-74 @ May 30, 2008 ...   Jun 2, 2008 - 9:22 AM
- - playr158   you can't say because each one is different......   Jun 2, 2008 - 9:55 AM
- - Defgeph   The video you posted is not a Celica at all. That ...   Jun 2, 2008 - 11:39 AM
- - delusionz   We all know the gt-four would get away 1st, but i ...   Jun 5, 2008 - 7:24 AM
|- - Insanity-74   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 5, 2008 - 1:2...   Jun 6, 2008 - 10:47 AM
- - DEATH   I gotta say, even tho I own a swap, the GT4 will o...   Jun 5, 2008 - 8:37 AM
- - 95celgt   I hope its not because you still shift the way you...   Jun 6, 2008 - 1:41 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (95celgt @ Jun 6, 2008 - 1:41 ...   Jun 6, 2008 - 10:59 AM
- - reko   Sweet i just found one for $11,000   Jul 5, 2008 - 2:28 PM
- - pipes   sorry to bring up an old thread but i believe a sw...   Dec 1, 2008 - 10:26 AM
|- - reko   QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:26 A...   Dec 1, 2008 - 10:56 AM
|- - pipes   QUOTE (reko @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:56 AM...   Dec 1, 2008 - 10:59 AM
- - 99GT   Psi doesn't matter. Haha.   Dec 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM
|- - pipes   QUOTE (99GT @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM...   Dec 1, 2008 - 10:44 AM
- - Terracar   I would think the ST205 would win. For all you gu...   Dec 1, 2008 - 11:26 AM
- - Remy   For people who don't believe in FWD. http://w...   Dec 1, 2008 - 11:31 AM
- - pipes   Still what is stock boost on a 3rd gen   Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 AM
|- - Nial   QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 A...   Dec 1, 2008 - 12:32 PM
- - presure2   from a launch, the 4 will grab the lead, and the s...   Dec 1, 2008 - 11:54 AM
- - pipes   Well I guess we will see in the spring...wich stoc...   Dec 1, 2008 - 1:01 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 1:01 PM...   Dec 1, 2008 - 1:59 PM
|- - pipes   QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 1, 2008 - 2:59...   Dec 1, 2008 - 2:12 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 3:12 PM...   Dec 1, 2008 - 8:24 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 A...   Dec 1, 2008 - 3:13 PM
|- - pipes   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2008 - 4:13 PM...   Dec 1, 2008 - 4:03 PM
- - reko   Split opinions... you guys arent really helping me...   Dec 1, 2008 - 4:58 PM
- - Remy   If I had a swapped 3rd gen 3sgte FWD celica even t...   Dec 1, 2008 - 6:47 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Remy @ Dec 1, 2008 - 6:47 PM)...   Dec 1, 2008 - 8:41 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 1, 2008 - 5:41...   Dec 1, 2008 - 9:13 PM
- - reko   Yeah that's what I was thinking too! And a...   Dec 2, 2008 - 8:55 AM
- - bringindaheat573   Sorry to revive a kinda old thread but ive noticed...   Jan 1, 2009 - 12:38 AM
- - reko   QUOTE (bringindaheat573 @ Jan 1, 2009 - ...   Jan 1, 2009 - 6:34 PM


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