Just Another GT-4 Build, We'll skip 10 years of shinangians and just get to the good stuff Options

[czwalga]

good to know !

so getting a rear clip is not the best pick to go AWD ?

The clip may help just cause you have more in case you decide to do something different. All i had was all the critical mechanical parts, made everything else.


The car isn't like legos, whatever you decide its going to take some custom fab.

[celica95-95]

yea i was just hopping toyota didn't change the frame that much i could do it more like factory , but the info is good !!
I don't mine doing custom work, but is more now $$

[mkernz22]

Looking good so far, hope you get it all worked out!

As for celica95-95, you live in toronto...why didn't you just buy a GT4?

This post has been edited by mkernz22: May 15, 2013 - 3:17 PM

[celica95-95]

dont what RHD

[mkernz22]

dont what RHD

I feel like a LHD swap would be much easier than an AWD swap

[celica95-95]

yea was thinking thats as well

still work either way

This post has been edited by celica95-95: May 15, 2013 - 4:38 PM

[qatar11]

dont what RHD

I feel like a LHD swap would be much easier than an AWD swap

You forgot the VIN swap.. which, I think, is a Federal offense

This post has been edited by qatar11: May 16, 2013 - 11:41 AM

[qatar11]

Sew.... As I sort out the adjustable length trailing rods and I wait for a gasket from the UK, I turn to the steering rack:







Today I learned that the ST204 steering rack (at least the USDM one) is significantly smaller then its ST205 (JDM) counterpart. So the immediate options that spring to mind are longer inner tie rods from God-Knows-Where or a LHD ST205 steering rack... which should be a little like hunting for a unicorn...



I shoulda bought a STi


Also, I found out my spare GT steering rack (pictured) is all jacked up (see input from steering wheel) - so thanks a lot to the jack-hole I bought it from on here (whose name escapes me)

This post has been edited by qatar11: Jun 5, 2013 - 9:19 PM

[qatar11]

I wonder if I can just flip it around....

[playr158]

Mounting is different between Kframe for RHD and LHD steering racks.
For my RHD conversion i used RHD K frame, RHD rack and pinion, mcpherson inner and outter tie rods
and flipping it won't work cause the column to rack mount is offset on the system.

are you staying LHD and using SS suspension?
I would just keep the mcpherson stuff.....sooooo much easier

[qatar11]

Mounting is different between Kframe for RHD and LHD steering racks.
For my RHD conversion i used RHD K frame, RHD rack and pinion, mcpherson inner and outter tie rods
and flipping it won't work cause the column to rack mount is offset on the system.

are you staying LHD and using SS suspension?
I would just keep the mcpherson stuff.....sooooo much easier

What do you mean "mounting is different" ?

Are you saying the rack is not centered on the subframe?

Also - I am staying LHD and SS Suspension because I have some nice suspension bits I want to use...

This post has been edited by qatar11: Jun 6, 2013 - 9:41 AM

[czwalga]

Mike are you guys doing Lemons at hyperfest in WV? next weekend? Still debating if i'm going down or not.

[Smaay]

awesome build up man! im enjoying the pics

[BonzaiCelica]

a rhd subframe has different mounting points for steering rack.

[qatar11]

Mike are you guys doing Lemons at hyperfest in WV? next weekend? Still debating if i'm going down or not.

Nah - the Lemons car is under a tarp until the GT-FOUR is done. Race car will be re-started over the weekend - the cage rules have matured and on top of the blown engine I have to update the cage.

[qatar11]

a rhd subframe has different mounting points for steering rack.

Bonzai -

This is not true according to the EPC

51201-20310

02/1994-07/1995 ST205L-BLMVZW TBO4W, EUR, LB, LHD, 3SGTE, MTM 51-02
02/1994-07/1995 ST205R-BLMVZW TBO4W, EUR, LB, RHD, 3SGTE, MTM 51-02


I did, however, confirm that the Cross Member Sub Assembly is different between the ST204 and the ST205 - most notably where the steering rack is mounted... which might explain all the pain getting the AWD trans into my car... Seeeew At the risk of changing the angle in which the rack and tie-rods operate, I think the working plan will be to flip the steering rack around / find a LHD GT-FOUR steering rack.

This post has been edited by qatar11: Jun 7, 2013 - 7:35 PM

[qatar11]

flipping the steering rack doesn't work - the input to the rack points the wrong way - obviously... So it looks like I have 3 options remaining...

Buy a LHD steering rack from Toyota new (price coming)
Find inner tie rods that are a little longer than SS inner tie rods
Ditch the SS suspension

Ditching the SS suspension is fine... except now I don't have off the shelf solutions for suspension and I have to figure out how to mount the calipers...

[njccmd2002]

Find inner tie rods that are a little longer than SS inner tie rods

why not use sleeves like old celicas do...

[qatar11]

Find inner tie rods that are a little longer than SS inner tie rods

why not use sleeves like old celicas do...

Maybe? Will have to look into it.

[qatar11]

She's cleans up nice...






PSA of the day:

When using compressed air to removed seized caliper pistons, do not point the caliper towards your car window. Luckily it bounced off some other soft metals before making it to the windshield... all is well. So i plug the holes with some cork gasket and I (after the first 2) fire the piston into a cardboard box - which flies across the garage... Good stuff...



WRT: the rack. After lots and lots and lots of internet research - it turns out the refurb people in Europe have the same internal part number for the ST18X as the ST205... Soooo I have one of those coming (should be here tomorrow) Fingers crossed..

This post has been edited by qatar11: Jun 10, 2013 - 8:53 PM