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[Box]

Hey you know what would make it launch even better, a clutch.

Not nessecarliy

Which is why every manual is faster than their torque converted counterpart?

[Box]

I follow the James May school of driving philosophy - it's fun to drive a slow car fast. I like non-grippy tires, and like Box said, I know the corners and turns on the way to work and I try to get 9/10ths out of the car as much as possible. I consider it a tribute to the fact that she's held up through five-and-a-half years, not to mention...I feel like every second of "proper" driving is repayment for the sweat, blood, and tears I've put into the car.

And to add fuel to the clutch comment - there is very little in this world that makes me feel as alive as chirping the tires into second after winding out first. Downshifting from third to second, or from fifth to third at higher speed is close behind.

Come to think of it Box, you should really invest in a 7GC short shifter. I think a lot of your qualms could be solved if you have less time to complain about speed between shifts.

I follow the Michael Schumacher school of driving philosophy, it's even more fun to drive a fast car fast. I can see the appeal in both schools of thought, as I've been in both. I just prefer to have ample amounts of both speed and handling. Why choose when you can have the best of both worlds? I'll even let you in on a secret about myself, and one of the cars that I'd really like to have. It'll probably surprise you, but that's good. Ready...?

























Now that you've picked yourself back up from the floor. I've thought about getting a short shifter, but the improvements would be marginal at best I'd think. It's not like from the factory it was a truck shifter like some other cars.

[richee3]

Which is why every manual is faster than their torque converted counterpart?

Not necessarily. The 350Z, for instance, has identical 0-60 times for both the 5AT and 6MT. The 5AT lacks the driving joy though, but had the benefit of not having to deal with the garbage clutch and syncros.

Also, you know you own a Celica when you are willing to take a 2,200 mile roadtrip I'm under three days to meet people from teh interwebz. And you trust the car enough to not take a single tool.

This post has been edited by richee3: Sep 24, 2013 - 5:16 PM

[Box]

Way to just assume 0-60.

[SwissFerdi]

It's almost as if a Viper and Miata mated, out came Cappuccino.

The most bhp I've piloted, to keep with the British trend, is 340 in a Charger R/T. That was a test drive so I couldn't do it in anger, in which case that reduces to 200 from an A4 2.0t which I hooned a little more.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 24, 2013 - 6:01 PM

[1994Celica]

Damn all this talk about auto vs manual is making me want to swap my auto out.

[SwissFerdi]

^ Do it! Highly recommended, very satisfying to do and the end result is worth the pain. Doesn't have to be expensive either, I spent in the region of $450.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 24, 2013 - 6:13 PM

[rentaspace]

Hey you know what would make it launch even better, a clutch.

Not nessecarliy

Which is why every manual is faster than their torque converted counterpart?

Nissan GTR
Semi auto, No clutch...

I never said manual was less fun; because it isn't. But newer autos are way better than what was available years ago, this why many super cars are coming standard with semi-auto transmissions.

[1994Celica]

^ Do it! Highly recommended, very satisfying to do and the end result is worth the pain. Doesn't have to be expensive either, I spent in the region of $450.

I've probably will. The auto trand is the thing I hate the most in my car. If I had a stick everything would be 100x better.

This post has been edited by 1994Celica: Sep 24, 2013 - 6:25 PM

[rentaspace]

^ Do it! Highly recommended, very satisfying to do and the end result is worth the pain. Doesn't have to be expensive either, I spent in the region of $450.

I've probably will. The auto trand is the thing I hate the most in my car. If I had a stick everything would be 100x better.

If/when I ever do it, I will be engine swapping too...

Local guy has a 3S-GE +LSD /manual for $2k right near my house... They are open for offers too, I just don;t have the time, money or space atm...

[Box]

Hey you know what would make it launch even better, a clutch.

Not nessecarliy

Which is why every manual is faster than their torque converted counterpart?

Nissan GTR
Semi auto, No clutch...

I never said manual was less fun; because it isn't. But newer autos are way better than what was available years ago, this why many super cars are coming standard with semi-auto transmissions.

The GT-R uses a DUAL CLUTCH transmission. Just like most every other supercar uses a dual clutch or some other form of automated manual transmission.

[rentaspace]

Hey you know what would make it launch even better, a clutch.

Not nessecarliy

Which is why every manual is faster than their torque converted counterpart?

Nissan GTR
Semi auto, No clutch...

I never said manual was less fun; because it isn't. But newer autos are way better than what was available years ago, this why many super cars are coming standard with semi-auto transmissions.

The GT-R uses a DUAL CLUTCH transmission. Just like most every other supercar uses a dual clutch or some other form of automated manual transmission.

But the point was, the driver doesn't control it, they just use the flappy paddles or shift forward backward

[Box]

Which isn't anywhere as fun. I don't care if DST's or DSG's are faster, I rather have a traditional manual. To me having the ability to jump around gears as you please is a little more important than shaving those couple of tenths of a second to 60... Already in the 3 second range anyway, as if those few tenths really matter or are even noticeable. The real reason they're doing it is so the rich fùcks that actually buy the cars can somewhat drive their status symbol.

This post has been edited by Box: Sep 24, 2013 - 8:14 PM

[rentaspace]

Which isn't anywhere as fun. I don't care if DST's or DSG's are faster, I rather have a traditional manual. To me having the ability to jump around gears as you please is a little more important than shaving those couple of tenths of a second to 60... Already in the 3 second range anyway, as if those few tenths really matter or are even noticeable. The real reason they're doing it is so the rich fùcks that actually buy the cars can somewhat drive their status symbol.

"Semi-Automatic" also sounds better than "manual" or "auto", despite what it actually is



This post has been edited by rentaspace: Sep 24, 2013 - 8:45 PM

[Box]

Manumatic.

[gen6coupe]

^ Do it! Highly recommended, very satisfying to do and the end result is worth the pain. Doesn't have to be expensive either, I spent in the region of $450.

I've probably will. The auto trand is the thing I hate the most in my car. If I had a stick everything would be 100x better.

If/when I ever do it, I will be engine swapping too...

Local guy has a 3S-GE +LSD /manual for $2k right near my house... They are open for offers too, I just don;t have the time, money or space atm...

this. if i ever did a tranny swap from auto which i desperately want to, you almost might as well hunt down a gen4 3s-gte

oh right back on topic... uhhmmm

....when every time you see those four lights you think 'lift or coupe?' and make sure to take note as it passes!
....when you look at interior pics to assure yourself they dont have a perfect looking armrest either, NOONE DOES!

This post has been edited by gen6coupe: Sep 24, 2013 - 10:52 PM

[Box]

I have a close to perfect armrest. At a glance you wouldn't see anything wrong.

Ehhh....

You know you own a Celica when you have it for sale and no one wants to buy it because they'd rather get a Honda.

[SwissFerdi]

Already in the 3 second range anyway...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HEAVY-STEEL-00...491&vxp=mtr

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 25, 2013 - 8:10 AM

[Box]

Why did you quote me talking about supercars, then post a short throw?

It'd help some I suppose, now what would help is somehow getting an extra 50 horsepower out of it.

[SwissFerdi]

I misread, thought you said it took you three seconds to shift.