 3sgte swap, Just got one question. |
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 Jan 23, 2020 - 3:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '20 From USA, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I’ve recently decided it would be in my best interest for what I’m wanting is to swap the 5s out. Luckily I’ll get a little more life out of it so I can take my time and build the new motor. (Sweetheart only has 256,000 miles) but my question was has anyone swapped the 3sgte out of a 98-02 Caldina into ours? Mine is a 1995, I’ve searched for months now and cant get an exact answer. I’ve got a killer price on one and thought it might be worth it. Thanks ahead for your guys’ time.
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Jan 23, 2020 - 4:10 PM
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Several people have done 4th gen swaps. Search for 4th gen 3S-GTE instead of Caldina and you’ll find better info. For starters, you’ll need harness work from MR220V and a FMIC and the rest of the swap is similar to any other 3S swap.
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Jan 23, 2020 - 4:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '20 From USA, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 23, 2020 - 5:10 PM)  Several people have done 4th gen swaps. Search for 4th gen 3S-GTE instead of Caldina and you’ll find better info. For starters, you’ll need harness work from MR220V and a FMIC and the rest of the swap is similar to any other 3S swap. I’ve searched and searched man. I’ve extensively researched the initial swap. But yeah, all I can find are ones for caldinas. I mean a 3s is a 3s right? |
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Jan 23, 2020 - 7:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '20 From USA, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just can’t find any 3s’ that aren’t from a caldina. That and it’s a killer price. I just wasn’t sure if it made a difference I mean a 3s should be a 3s to a certain extent right? I know there is changes in generation to generation. And time and knowledge isn’t really an issue. 2 guys at my shop are swapping machines. My main concern I guess is the wiring harness. I’ve swapped exact motors. But never OBD1 to OBD2 or US to JDM.
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Jan 24, 2020 - 8:26 AM
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The answer is simple, and if you REALLY researched, you would know who MR220V (Doug at Wiregap) is.
You buy your engine, with a complete caldina harness. Send your current engine harness, along with the new COMPLETE caldina harness to Doug. Get your swap harness back, plug and play. -------------------- ~bloodMoney
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Jan 24, 2020 - 12:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '20 From USA, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jan 24, 2020 - 8:26 AM) The answer is simple, and if you REALLY researched, you would know who MR220V (Doug at Wiregap) is. You buy your engine, with a complete caldina harness. Send your current engine harness, along with the new COMPLETE caldina harness to Doug. Get your swap harness back, plug and play. I was looking for confirmation. And you guys have given me that so thank you. And as far as REALLY researching the answer is simple. I have, for about 6-7 months now. Just because I didn’t know about doug was doesn’t mean I didn’t research bud. But I can tell you’ve I’ve logged atleast 100 hours in research. Thanks for your time though. Just don’t be condescending man. |
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Jan 24, 2020 - 5:25 PM
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when i decided to swap a 2grfe into my celica. I researched, because I knew no one had done it before. That did not stop me.
If you swap an engine, please get a common sense of the wiring. At least its my belief. the wiring on any 3sgte is a joke compared to the wiring and startup of a 2gr engine. I did it with no prior experience. I am not a mechanic, or an engineer. Just a lot of research. almost 120 wires in my harness. If i have an electrical gremlin, " I KNOW" where to look. but thats just me. get the wiring books and diagrams, and study them, if you can read a map, should be no problem. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Jan 24, 2020 - 11:16 PM
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4th gen swaps are pretty common now. Having a complete harness is key. My 3rd gen swap was a breeze, no extension just a couple wires to solder and drive away with the wind.
If your guys are good with what they do, find them a wiring diagram and they'll finish the job. Otherwise contact Wiregap. --------------------  |
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Mar 8, 2020 - 4:45 PM
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i have a 97 with a 5th gen 3sgte/e153 transmission/3rd gen intercooler
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