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 Oct 20, 2004 - 10:27 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%)  |
Well, just to let u know on what I decided to do. Most of you would probably not consider this the best option, but I will get a 10-inch RF sub and a RF amp, while keeping the stock HU and replacing the front woofers. I really don't need a very loud system, I usually listen to CD's with the volume only about a quarter of the way up b/c my stock system is powerful as it is. The only thing I want is more bass. The opinions seemed to be split among a few brands so I will trust my friend (celicruiser) who has installed quite a few systems, including his car, and knows what he's talking about (plus I will get everything half-price
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Oct 20, 2004 - 11:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
SO, now the question is, how are you going to get signal to those subs? 
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
TI,
picking PG over RF was a very good thing...the RF amps like i said before are over rated in power their old stuff rocked cuz it was a bang for the buck deals....PG is one of those brands that not to many people hear about..but slowly is coming up on installs...for the price to watts its a good choice.. good luck with the install |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 10:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
I think through wires.....lol j/k. Actually ask celicruiser he will give you an answer, cause I have no idea hahaha  . I know it can be done b/c one of my friends has done it before.
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Oct 21, 2004 - 10:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Right, but here's your problem. You, with the delux 8 speaker system; have TWO stock amps. Without getting a new HU; you're going to get lower quality sound out of your subs- no matter what; because they have to use high level inputs instead of RCA ins. Furthermore, this might lesson the quality of one of your speakers (or just cut itout entirely) because now it's power is providing signal power for the subwoofer. |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 11:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '04 From West Windsor, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
I'm only getting one 10-inch sub so it wouldn't need that much power right? I'll let you know how it sounds when I get it.
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Oct 21, 2004 - 12:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It'll take as much power as the sub size- mine take 340Ws each right now |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 1:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
size dosent matter, RMS power and Ohms etc matters....ull get the signal through a line output converter, which will drastically reduce your sub quality, it will be alot more distoreted and wont give u that clean hit
EDIT: and it also sounds like your friend works at best buy(hence all the RF) This post has been edited by Pali_playa: Oct 21, 2004 - 1:17 PM |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 1:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I actually didn't mean physical size- I meant how many watts it took, being careless, thanks for correcting me Pali
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Oct 21, 2004 - 1:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
stereo equitpent isnt "taste" its not a food dmanit. sonys suck my left nut, ther amps overheat, the HU's EQ suck, and speaker have no mids. |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 1:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
and a HU is the most important part of ur system. if you dont have the quiality output(HU) u wont get the quality input(speakers).
your system is only as powerful as its weakest link |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeah using a line converter is only going to cause problems ...might as well save the time and hassle and buy a new HU......most HU rms output ill do fine.....
and stereo can be a matter of taste....it all depends one what music you listent to and how you build the system..... for example a guy that listen to rock isnt going to want a hard hitting sub SQ would be his choice... |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 2:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok but were talkin bout brands not spl db and that crap and HU RMS out put dosent mean nething for sub, they run off of RCA pre-outs...which btw u want to look for at least 4V |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 4:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Headunit- Sony
Subs-Kicker, JL, or Adire (Brahma) Amps-Rockford or Concept Tweeters-Memphis/Fultron Mids-Sony or Boston Acoustics I deal in car audio equipment a lot and have tried nearly every major brand out there and these are the best I've found. You won't find a better combination than this without going out of your way. |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 4:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ladies ladies ladies...there is a device out there called a high/low converter aka line out converter. This taps into the front right and left speaker outputs from the hu and converts it into an rca preout! it also has a built in crossover so u can adjust it to how you want it to sound. so no lame ass high level amp inputs or that stuff. you will still get increddible sound from the hu. the only thing it lacks is a 4volt preout (which wont add that much power considering my friend (rider) has tos of mid bass from his components); also he wont have sub control from the hu...BUT the rf amp comes with a gain remote control so all he has to do is turn a knob mounted somewhere by the steering wheel to ajdust the bass of the subs.....ANY MORE QUESTIONS???!!!?!?!?! and it will not take away any of the signal from the front speakers...AT ALL.....trust me guys, i know my stuff, im an MECP qualified installer |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 4:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '04 From san diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well i didnt say anything about "spl db and that crap" i was just to say it can be done by taste.....it can be broken down to brands/looks/sounds/size anyting pretty much....thats all i meant
well i know they run off RCA pre-out.....i just added that last bit kinda like saying that all brands have a decent rms output to the factory speakers....my bad should have been more clear...and btw last time i check my and a few others HU have a little rms going output for the sub....nothing big or enough to run the sub but it lets to fine tune... |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 4:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So why are you saying that a high out converter off of a HU is high quality? Just because it converts it to an RCA out doesn't mean it's a preout quality. BTW, those lame ass high level inputs on an amp still work better than a rigged highlevel-> RCA converter- becuase the ones on the amp have signal processing
Wow, you don't know jack- or what an "increddible" (or hell, decent) sound system sounds like |
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Oct 21, 2004 - 5:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok every but shid is needs to stop talking.
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Oct 21, 2004 - 5:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '04 From antioch CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
if you do not have a system now im pretty sure your probably gonna like whatever you get because it will be a noticable difference. My first system was a 400 watt jensen amp from walmart and two 200 watt rockford subs and I thought it was the sh**. Ive def upgreded now but a Systems is never something everyone can agree on you gotta find what you like.
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Oct 21, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^^ very important and very true but then, when giving advice to an audio "newb" you want them to get the best system they can get first off, so 6 months later they're not like: my system sucks 
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