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post Nov 21, 2004 - 3:48 PM
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from what i've read, the 3sgte swap is expensive... not only that, not many people have done this (especially in the north east... PA etc)... so I've been thinking about the alternatives, and if I buy an mr2 turbo (the entire car) and work on that, would that be the smarter investment? I know it has greater power potential than the 3sgte in quarter mi. time. what do you think?

im also concerned about emissions, so thats why a US mr2 sounds like a better option.

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post Nov 21, 2004 - 4:05 PM
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Well if you get an Mr2 turbo i can assure you its going to be cheaper and you'll already have the 3sgte to work with installed =P
post Nov 21, 2004 - 4:10 PM
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Sounds like you should go for the mr2. The 3s swap seems unrealisticly expensive to me.

post Nov 21, 2004 - 6:49 PM
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swap is a big project and is a lot of work. if you can buy an mr2 in great shape, then go for it, its a great car.

on the other hand, doing a swap lets you learn a lot about your car, and you have something unique that you can take pride in.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 1:01 AM
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Don't forget you'll be losing 2 seats and gaining RWD. MR2 is a 2 seater right?
post Nov 22, 2004 - 1:06 AM
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yes sir... there was n0 rear seat option in a mr2 there was simply no room lol.
post Nov 22, 2004 - 1:44 AM
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How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:03 AM
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the motors would be the same... the mr2 is lighter, mid engine, and RWD... and you have a ct26 either way


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:20 AM
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QUOTE(mikew04 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 2:03 AM)
the motors would be the same... the mr2 is lighter, mid engine, and RWD... and you have a ct26 either way
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incorrect, the MR2 is heavier.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:21 AM
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really? i just assumed... would it still be heavier than a swapped celi?

EDIT: would it also depend on the year? edmunds has the 94 gt hatch weighing about 80 pounds less than a 94 mr2, but a 98 celi weighing 100 pounds more than a 2 of the same year. and then they have the '95 mr2 200 pounds heavier than the 94... but then again its edmunds so who knows

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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:23 AM
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MR2 is 2800+ lbs


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 6:00 AM
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gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god.

any how, rwd is better for drag if you're good. I love my celica, its just gonna be hard to give it up to an mr2 if that's what I decide.

i def. like the style of the 6gc better than any mr2 i've seen, but facts are facts, quarter mi. times don't lie regardless of what people say. I haven't seen a celica in any big sports mag in a long time. It seems to me the Z people know their ****.

It's really disappointing in the lack of after market support for the 6gc... even if I were to go through with the swap who is to say it will be better than an older car... If i wasn't so emotionally attached I'd get an older 300z and upgrade a few parts, run lower times for a third of the cost....

Well this is true, I love the 4cyl and the fact that its not nissan. The suspension is really great stock... I love my 97ST, I take it on back roads all the time zippin' through turns like its nothing... maybe that's all I am meant to do, but it would sure be nice to have some power under the hood.

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while its true that there are not many 5sfe and 7a aftermarket parts, there is a ton of stuff out for the 3sgte, because of all the mr2 tuners out there.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 8:27 AM
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As long as you stick to Toyota everything will work out!But all that really matters is 3sgte engine!You definately have the power!And personally the mr2 for me is on of the best loking import besides the Supra mk4 and the celica 6th gen.
post Nov 22, 2004 - 8:44 AM
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If your looking to drag the celica you need LSD no buts about it.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(powerkor @ Nov 22, 2004 - 11:00 AM)
gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god.
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No knowledgable owners? You must be falling into that group as well. If you're impressed with the 6gc's stock suspension, your standards for handling up ricer-high


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 12:42 PM
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[quote=powerkor,Nov 22, 2004 - 4:00 AM]
gee, people say alot of different **** on this site, the integrity of the content (posted by others) is questionable. Is there no knowledgable celi or mr2 owners on this board, for the love of god.

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I know more about celicas than most people know about cars in general. smile.gif However, there are MANY people on this board alone that know ten times what I know. This is the kind of statement that gets you flamed.
post Nov 22, 2004 - 1:15 PM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 6:44 AM)
How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag
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Huh? the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything! They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though. You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:44 PM
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QUOTE(bufferdan @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:15 PM)

Huh?  the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything!  They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though.  You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo.
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And a full remap. And I wouldn't risk it on stock internals personally.

But then I'm paranoid.


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post Nov 22, 2004 - 2:52 PM
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QUOTE(bufferdan @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:15 PM)
QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 6:44 AM)
How is a ct26 better for drag. You can only run around 8-10psi on stock internals. You can run far higher on the 3s which would be better for drag
[right][snapback]210090[/snapback][/right]


Huh? the gen I and II 3sgte stock turbo is a CT26...you can run them 15-16psi all day long on stock everything! They run out of umpf at 15-16psi though. You can push 20+ psi on a stock internal 3sgte with water injection,good intercooling, high octane, and upgraded turbo.
[right][snapback]210341[/snapback][/right]


He's talking about a 5sfe turbo'd man.


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