I have a ricer question, ...no really |
I have a ricer question, ...no really |
Jan 31, 2006 - 1:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 14, '05 From Corpus Christi Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I was just thinking, what is is that makes a car sound so crappy, like really the fart can mufflers.
I know of alot of cars that are fast as hell, and have all these mods, and they just sound soo ugly. I mean its pretty common you see, or hear a honda fartin around your neighborhood, but if Im not mistaken our cars dont sound that way, and I have heard with many diff types of mufflers and exhausts. Is there a certain cause for that sound....even some cars with good brand exhaust systems just dont sound right. Im in the turboing process for my gt, and Im trying to avoid farts at all cost....lol This post has been edited by celicaGT96: Jan 31, 2006 - 1:34 AM |
Jan 31, 2006 - 1:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
all 4-cylinder engines have a higher frequency? whine to them.
hondas usually sound different than most engines...no clue why. all it should be is proper sound deadening. a resonator and a good muffler should get you on your way to sounding less "ricey" in some exhaust it's somewhat wanted(IMO). i think the Fujitsu Legalis(i butchered the spelling) is always very whiney. If you want more info on mufflers, Manny MIGHT be able to help you, as i think he researched before deciding on the magnaflow? muffler. . . -------------------- |
Jan 31, 2006 - 3:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '05 From Under the car Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Try and go for an exhaust that dose not have a rolled in end to the tip, (if you know what I mean) as this adds to the crappy sound you hear on Honda`s....I used to have a Civic Si that was totally standard, but when the exhaust "went" it was cheaper for me to buy an aftermarket one...as I had little money at the time this is what I bought, it was a "Janspeed" IIRC with a rolled in tip....sounded bloody awfull, resonated around the car and made long trips a living nightmare.
Anyway...this should go some way in preventing that horrible sound. |
Jan 31, 2006 - 3:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
A nice, long resonator will help give the exhaust note a much deeper tone. That's about all I know
The best way to get a better exhaust note, of course, is to swap in a V6 or V8. This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jan 31, 2006 - 3:51 AM -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Jan 31, 2006 - 9:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
what do u mean rolled tip??
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Jan 31, 2006 - 10:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
man, i hate those civic's with the weed-eater sounding mufflers...
...sorry for the pointless post...i just had to comment ~snap This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Jan 31, 2006 - 10:32 AM -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
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Jan 31, 2006 - 10:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
rolled = rounded edge
i believe.... non-rolled: rolled: -------------------- |
Jan 31, 2006 - 10:37 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
oO lol thought that was it, yea i got a non rolled Ractive.. lol i wanna shoot some flames out but i dont drive a 9 second supra
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Jan 31, 2006 - 11:43 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Hollywood, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 31, 2006 - 4:51 AM) [snapback]386892[/snapback] A nice, long resonator will help give the exhaust note a much deeper tone. That's about all I know The best way to get a better exhaust note, of course, is to swap in a V6 or V8. the way you get a deeper tone is not by how many cylinders you have, but how many liters are in the engine. Usaully tho when you have 5+ liters you have a v6 or a v8 (like mustangs, camaros, ect.) and when you have a crappy 1.3 liter its usaully in a 4 cylinder honda, acura, ect. MOST of our cars are 2.2 liters, so it doesnt usaully sound that bad. I prefer the mustang sound over a civic anyday,I just dont think it would look/sound right on our cars. I prefer a silent car. -------------------- To live, is to suffer
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Jan 31, 2006 - 11:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
for sound its about your motor defenitly but things you can do to aid in the increase in noise quality are things like
QUALITY parts...yes this means MORE MONEY but its worth it hks, greddy, magnaflow are all good products that can produce good tones RESONATOR...a nice long one with drilled (NOT slotted) core is best, this reduces and/or eliminates the loudness and drone of an exhaust along with deepening the over all tone.. |
Jan 31, 2006 - 12:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I like mine. Strate pipe sounds the best. I do get a little shrill sound at about 1.9k-2.1k. But then it clears up. I don't think my exhaust sounds the best, but it was cheap and effective. I'm considering a resonater to help calm things down a bit. Depends on price.
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Jan 31, 2006 - 1:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 16, '05 From Orlando, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
speakin of resonators..where can i get one.. i heard the local muffler shops have them and they arent that expensive, only like $30-$40 installed. does that soun right?
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Jan 31, 2006 - 1:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 21, '05 From New Mexico, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have 2 1/2' straight pipe on the exhaust with a 2' cherry bomb where the resonator use to be. The exhaust comes out right infront of the passenger rear tire, straight pipe with a bolt on exhaust tip, and the car sounds awesome. It has a nice deep sound. I have to agree with Insanity-74, my friend just put a muffler like that on his integra... it sounds awful.
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Jan 31, 2006 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Heres my theory on why an exhaust will sound like it does.
1.) Displacement. Cars with a larger displacement motor will inherently sound deeper due to the size of the engine. Likewise, a car with more cylinders usually has a deeper sound because the exhaust note is of the collective tone of all 6 or 8 cylinders firing, for example. Also, with cylinders usually comes more displacement....deeper tone. 2.) Engine design. An inline 4 cylinder like our cars have won't sound like a EJ20 horizontally opposed 4 cylinder in the WRX. They sound very deep in comparison even with less displacement because of the way the engine is designed. It doesn't have a smooth whine up to redline like the I-4, they sound like a series of pops that really adds to a rumbling deep tone. Hondas are a low displacement motor that really get loud when revved hard....but also the rice sound you often hear is the result of the following factor..... 3.) The exhaust. If you have a larger diameter pipe it'll usually add up to a louder exhaust. A resonator will allow you to manipulate that tone, along with the design of the muffler. If I put a canister style or "fart can" muffler on the same piping I have now as opposed to my GReddy setup, it would certainly be louder because of the path in which the exhaust and engine sound exits the car. Usually when I see a "ricey" sounding car its because there is a huge ugly canister muffler that just kinda emits sound and exhaust in whatever direction instead of a free-flowing and focused route. Thats pretty much my opinion on why exhausts sound like they do. -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
Jan 31, 2006 - 2:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 17, '05 From Newcastle / UK Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 31, 2006 - 4:53 PM) [snapback]386957[/snapback] QUALITY parts...yes this means MORE MONEY but its worth it Single biggest factor imo, quality construction with some R+D put into the design. -------------------- 1994 JDM GT4 WRC
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Jan 31, 2006 - 4:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Driveby @ Jan 31, 2006 - 2:30 PM) [snapback]387021[/snapback] QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 31, 2006 - 4:53 PM) [snapback]386957[/snapback] QUALITY parts...yes this means MORE MONEY but its worth it Single biggest factor imo, quality construction with some R+D put into the design. Just because something costs more, doesn't make it better. Look at the injen intake for the Celica's compared to a modified Accord intake. You'll pick up more with the Accord intake and you'll only pay 20% on the price. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Jan 31, 2006 - 4:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 31, 2006 - 8:51 AM) [snapback]386892[/snapback] A nice, long resonator will help give the exhaust note a much deeper tone. That's about all I know The best way to get a better exhaust note, of course, is to swap in a V6 or V8. straight 6 woot woot..rb20det time for my 240!! -------------------- Now SR powered |
Jan 31, 2006 - 5:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From IL Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
QUOTE(OrbitalGT95 @ Jan 31, 2006 - 3:27 PM) [snapback]387086[/snapback] straight 6 woot woot..rb20det time for my 240!! ? you have a RB in your 240? -------------------- PROJECT 6TH GEN
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Jan 31, 2006 - 5:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Driveby @ Jan 31, 2006 - 11:30 AM) [snapback]387021[/snapback] QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 31, 2006 - 4:53 PM) [snapback]386957[/snapback] QUALITY parts...yes this means MORE MONEY but its worth it Single biggest factor imo, quality construction with some R+D put into the design. Definetely. All of my exhaust including piping, muffler, all of it is custom made by my fabricator and i get so many compliments on it. Granted alot would like it louder but it works for me and i can hear it in my house when i have the car warming up so thats loud enough if you ask me. Even had a cop say that it was too loud when it was in neutral - lol This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Jan 31, 2006 - 5:44 PM -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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Jan 31, 2006 - 5:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 19, '05 From Auckland New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
We call them big bore exhausts in new nealand just a muffler tip not full exhaust system doesn't do anything except cause alot of noise we even have cars without rims like nana spec cars with b/bore exhausts they will be making a new law soon to stop noisy exhausts.
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