sway bar ? |
sway bar ? |
May 16, 2006 - 5:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '06 From Mary Land Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i was looking into sway bars but my friend says they would be pointless for me. 1) i wouldnt notice a difference with or without them. 2) they are completely useless in the back. with a fwd car. he was explaining y but i dont remember. can someone tell me the truth? ty
edit: he said if anything get some struts and springs This post has been edited by Toyoca: May 16, 2006 - 5:24 PM |
May 16, 2006 - 5:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Smack your friend.
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May 16, 2006 - 6:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '06 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
Agreed. Sway bars can make a HUGE difference in handling. Or just replacing the bushings can help a great deal. If you want em get em. And dont listen to ANYTHING else your friend tells you!
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May 16, 2006 - 6:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 26, '04 From Sacramento, California Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE 2) they are completely useless in the back. Actually, with a larger rear sway bar you get more oversteer. With a FF layout that is a good thing becasue FF cars tends to understeer a lot. |
May 16, 2006 - 7:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '06 From Mary Land Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so will i actually tell the difference in everyday driving?
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May 16, 2006 - 9:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
you should !!
I haven't install mine but, my friend has a ford focus and he install sway bars on it and even a focus feels way diferent with the sway bars so I expect more from a celi -------------------- |
May 16, 2006 - 9:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '05 From Daytona Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (50%) |
do not talk to that friend of yours about cars anymore,
ignore him and go get them QUOTE(Toyoca @ May 16, 2006 - 6:23 PM) [snapback]434696[/snapback] i was looking into sway bars but my friend says they would be pointless for me. 1) i wouldnt notice a difference with or without them. 2) they are completely useless in the back. with a fwd car. he was explaining y but i dont remember. can someone tell me the truth? ty edit: he said if anything get some struts and springs -------------------- Journal for my 3SGTE swap
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May 16, 2006 - 10:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '06 From Mary Land Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
both front and back sways? what are some good brands. thanks guys
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May 16, 2006 - 10:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Parts Database is a great place to find part options for the 6gc.
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May 17, 2006 - 12:18 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '06 From Mary Land Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 16, 2006 - 11:59 PM) [snapback]434800[/snapback] thanks. i just see two different ones tho: Tanabe Sustec and Suspension Techniques. is that all? the tanabe has no reviews. suspension techniques sound good |
May 17, 2006 - 12:30 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 17, '06 From seattle wa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
During high speed cornering maneuvers, vehicles tend to flex at the strut tower portion of the chassis. by using swaybars eliminates body flex for improved handling and drivability~~~~~~~tattoomike
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May 17, 2006 - 12:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just put the Suspension Techniques swaybars on my car about a week ago, and I have to say they make a HUGE difference in how the car drives. I have no other suspension mods but I feel that I don't need any more. The car doesn't understeer nearly as badly, and it is very responsive in corners. Much MUCH more so than before I installed them.
And I bet your friend also thinks exhaust + CAI = 100 more hp lol. Naw, just kidding but they definitely don't know what they're talking about -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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May 17, 2006 - 4:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You need to be careful when uprating the swaybar size. Fit the wrong size/combination, and you will quite easily destroy the handling of the car. Very easy to increase oversteer in a FWD car by going too large up front. Only go down a proven route unless you are prepared to experiment.
By uprating both front and rear bars on my GT-Four, I have not only dramatically reduced the inherent factory understeer, but I have also made the back end more 'twitchy' which suits my driving style. It doesn't exactly behave like a RWD car, but it is easier to get the rear to step out in an almost lazy and controlled manner. If you're not sure as to how much sway bars can affect handling, try a half decent driving simulator game such as Gran Turismo 4 and try adjusting the sway bar sizes on the Celica and see what sort of potentially undesirable effects can occur I'm not saying "Don't do it". In fact, done correctly, it often does make a huge improvement - just beware of the potential pitfalls. HTH Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
May 17, 2006 - 9:25 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Theres no size options on the SS sway bars.
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