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> Cali guys: 1mzfe swap smog legal???
post Sep 19, 2006 - 10:30 PM
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I was lookin around and read about the v6 swap. Can we drop that motor into are car without dealing with the smog crap. Thats the main reason i haven't done the 3sgte swap. I don't want to have to go through the hassle of finding someone to "help me out" with the smog test.

While on the v6 subject, can the 1mz fit in our car with the supercharger attached. I read that the 3mz was kind of a tight fit.
post Sep 19, 2006 - 10:35 PM
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i think it has 2 be the same engine in the same car.

that and the engine has to be newer than the car.

if the first one dosent exist than congradulations, you can get a legally smogged v6 celica

put a supercharger on that v6 and it will fail smog.


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post Sep 19, 2006 - 10:36 PM
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i know the sc is carb legal, for the camry. but im not sure about it being in a celica tho.
post Sep 19, 2006 - 11:00 PM
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Yes, as long as the engine is the same year of the car or newer, and it DOES have EGR, and is the same or newer OBD generation, then it's legal. And the S/C should be fine if it's a smog-legal version.

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post Sep 19, 2006 - 11:06 PM
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call someone and find out for sure, he-said she-said wont help you when you get a ticket!


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 2:46 AM
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yup, the v6 swap is legal. swap engines can't be older than the car or jdm in cali. a usdm 230hp na 3mzfe swap sounds good to me.


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 4:09 AM
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last time i check this what they told me.(hope this makes sense0)


motor has to be the year of that car or higher. you can't go back years.

you can put other motors like a honda,ford,chevy, ect.

you can only put motors from that weight classes, like im guess you can't put a B20 in a integra becuase that motor is from a SUV. the classes i belive are: light weight, heavy, SUV, and Deisal.


those are the mains one or that should be it. when you a motor from another car, you have to go to the DMV and they will inspect it and will give you paper work so you can smog it. when smog time comes, you have to go to the ref. they have to smog it due to the paper work you got from the DMV.


im not really 100 percent sure so don't quote me on something. hope this helps thought


i want to put the scion TC motor hopefully i will be able to do that.


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 6:40 AM
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And in California, it HAS to have EGR!


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 1:35 PM
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oh i forgot and the motor has to be USDM


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 3:47 PM
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Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****.


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 5:47 PM
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QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback]

Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****.


yeah but only legally smile.gif


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 6:18 PM
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QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback]

Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****.

this is why I will just smog the car like the day before I do any kind of turbo or engine swap, then I don't have to worry about it for two years, and then, if (god forbid) I'm still living in cali in two years I'll try finding some dishonest guy that'll pass it for me after a little cash under the table. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 7:39 PM
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QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM) [snapback]481891[/snapback]

Oh, and in Cali, the motor has to SUCK and with ABSOLUTELY NO HP to pass our ****ing stupid smog check ****.


not really.... just can't be older, jdm, or have non street legal mods. cali is a lil more strict than most states. but i don't see why a v6 swap shouldn't pass.


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post Sep 20, 2006 - 8:34 PM
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I'm going to be moving to CA in a little less than a year and was wondering what swaps would be kosher out there? It seems like there are so many resitrictions that I might just need to buy a faster car when I want the speed and keep the ST for all the other days.
post Sep 20, 2006 - 11:26 PM
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where in cali?
post Sep 21, 2006 - 1:51 AM
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QUOTE(xelan @ Sep 20, 2006 - 6:34 PM) [snapback]482005[/snapback]

I'm going to be moving to CA in a little less than a year and was wondering what swaps would be kosher out there? It seems like there are so many resitrictions that I might just need to buy a faster car when I want the speed and keep the ST for all the other days.

if the car was registered in another state when the swap occured, I don't think it has to be limited to california engine swap rules as long as it passes smog (which is extremely strict), which includes having an EGR.

if you look around on craigslist (in my area anyway) you see a LOT of cars for sale with engine swaps. most of them say "needs smog." I think people here get their car smogged, then engine swap it, then two years later sell it before they smog it so they don't have to deal with it.


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post Sep 21, 2006 - 12:49 PM
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Thanks for the answer, and sorry to hijack the thread there for a bit.
post Sep 21, 2006 - 5:07 PM
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not legal. the celi never came with a V6, so you can't do it. legal in the camry though.
post Sep 21, 2006 - 5:13 PM
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The reason i ask, is because i've got a friend who dropped a modified b18c5 (type R) with a usdm head and emissions crap into an eg hatchback. He got it bar'd and its now street legal. Now i know for sure that no honda civic hatch rolled off the factory floor with a type r motor, at least not in the u.s!!!

I guess i just answered my own question!!!
post Sep 28, 2006 - 8:33 PM
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QUOTE(dubk @ Sep 21, 2006 - 5:07 PM) [snapback]482378[/snapback]

not legal. the celi never came with a V6, so you can't do it. legal in the camry though.


Incorrect. The v6 CAN be swapped into the celi. You need to have ALL smog emission equipment from the donor car. Ex. Evap, egr, etc... The 1mz-fe can be from 94-whatever because that engine was available during our years. The supercharger is legal as well and if I recall correctly, it's even legal for 94 1mz-fe's.

And as for the 3sgte's...

Those are legal to swap into 94-95 celica's as well because the 3sgte was still offered in america in the mr2's. So when you swap it in and take it to the Ref, tell them it's a "Mr2 swap".

*Also, you can get JDM engine swaps, however, you DO Have to install EGR. Josh does this up at www.chicoraceworks.com. Other then that, just make sure all vacuum and emission components are installed as per the 94-95 mr2. Go to alldata or michel online to get the 94-95 mr2 vacuum and emission diagrams and make sure you have ALL the components.



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