HTR FWD BUILD UP, FWD Beast Options

[HARDTARGET]

so whats the story behind your rwd car? why are you building a fwd one if you already have a 9sec celica?

The FWD car is the RWD car now, it's the same car. Im building the green one for the street "won't be driven every day" but will be able to run in the NHRA sport FWD class, that's why im building it. The story with the RWD is i'm in the process of building a 2007 RWD Scion TC and the RWD celica is almost sold.





This post has been edited by HARDTARGET: Mar 9, 2007 - 4:28 PM

[InfamousChappy]

How are you gonna hook up 8 or 900 FWD horsepower and be able to drive it on the street? Just curious.

[jdg371]

800BHP in a 5SGTE is crazy lol. That turbo will be size of the engine haha.

I wonder if they would permit you to run a 503E.. It's been fitted and ran in a MKII MR2.. =] Just a thought.

[HARDTARGET]

How are you gonna hook up 8 or 900 FWD horsepower and be able to drive it on the street? Just curious.

I'm not planning on street racing, it will be a waste of time. anything over 450hp on a FWD car on the street is a waste, it will never hook up. The car will be able to drive as far has the meth fuel takes it.

[HARDTARGET]

800BHP in a 5SGTE is crazy lol. That turbo will be size of the engine haha.

I wonder if they would permit you to run a 503E.. It's been fitted and ran in a MKII MR2.. =] Just a thought.

do i need to say more.

[Batman722]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

[jgreening]

Just out of curiosity, can you stay below 5500 RPMs and never reach positive manifold pressure? On a WOT run, will it fall out of boost when shifting? How high will you rev it on a WOT run?

[Blakout16]

i dont think the turbo is big enough

[Alan]

Yeah like what is that Turbo? and how much does the motor need to rev to spool up, Do You use antilag or NOS for it to spool

[toyotacrazy]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

[toyotacrazy]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

[playr158]

doesn't the 5sfe have thicker walls then a 3sgte newayz?

5s blocks are often used for stoker motors as well

[presure2]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

that would be because the 5s, and the 7a for that matter are known for having weak rod bolts.throwing a rod thru the block says nothing about the blocks intergrity.
a little research on mr2oc will net quite a few reasons people use the 5s block, besides the .2 liters that you gain with it.

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

they tend to crack between the bores.

[x_itchy_b_x]

between 2 and 3 because of the internal coolant passage.

[toyotacrazy]

This thread is very interesting. I believe the rod studs pull out of the rod. From what Ive seen anyways.

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

they tend to pull the head stud closest to the water pump right off and so do the older 5s blocks also.

[playr158]

use L19 head studs?

[HARDTARGET]

Well guys it's been a while, but it's time to get this car done, finally got some spare time to work on the car, I'll get some updated pics but not much diff from before just got the intake manifold almost done.