check engine light Options

[slow94st]

ok so my car wont start and i see the check engine light on, so i used a paper clip to jump te1 and e1(i think there the right ones) well anyway i turned the key and my check engine light was blinking continuously, what code is that

[slow94st]

ok so i pulled out all of the fuses and relays and waited, then i put them back in, then i jumped te1 and e1 and my check engine light blinks 1 time then pauses and then blinks 2 times, is that a code 12, whats a code 12, btw my engine wont even turn over

This post has been edited by slow94st: Jun 18, 2007 - 4:31 PM

[Batman722]

http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/error.htm

[Jaws4God]

Code Blink Circuit
n/a 8 flashes normal
12 1, then 2 G, NE signal (#1)
13 1, then 3 G, NE signal (#2)
14 1, then 4 Ignition Signal Circuit
16 1, then 5 A/T Control Signal
21 2, then 1 Oxygen Sensor Signal
22 2, then 2 Engine coolent Temp Sensor Signal
24 2, then 4 Intake Air Temperature Sensor
25 2, then 5 Air/Fuel Ratio Lean Malfunction
26 2, then 6 Air/Fuel Ratio Rich Malfunction
27 2, then 7 Sub-Oxygen Sensor signal
31 3, then 1 MAP sensor
41 4, then 1 Throttle Position Sensor signal
42 4, then 2 Speed Sensor Signal
43 4, then 3 Starter Signal
51 5, then 1 Switch condition signal
52 5, then 2 Knock Sensor
71 7, then 1 EGR System

This post has been edited by Jaws4God: Jun 19, 2007 - 11:31 AM

[slow94st]

so how is the code 12 not making my car turn over

[Batman722]

I should of explained it, sorry.
It's the ignition/distributor that's the problem, check you distributor cap/rotor and make sure they're not bad, also the wires, plugs.

worse case senerio, it's the timing belt. To check this, take the dizzy cap off so you can see the rotor. Then have someone try to start the car and you will be looking at the rotor, if it doesn't spin when someone is trying to start the car, you have a problem.

[slow94st]

the starter dosent even turn

[Batman722]

when you turn the key, does anything happen ? what sound...

[slow94st]

well when i push in the clutch and turn the key it just makes like a click sound like a relay or somthing would make

[Batman722]

then it's your starter...

[slow94st]

****, man it just started 2 weeks ago than it sat there, i just replased that starter 2, i think it was used

[Batman722]

try to pop start it or tap on the starter with a hammer, it might start then.

[slow94st]

ya me and my dad tryed to pop start it in 1,2,3 gear but it didnt. i dont think it was movin fast enough, i did hit the starter but when it wasnt cranking when i hit it

[slow94st]

will a starter out of a 5th gen 5sfe work, my buddy has one

[devilsden97]

ya me and my dad tryed to pop start it in 1,2,3 gear but it didnt.

try again....and make sure u go pretty fast...let the clutch in REALLY easy and slow.

will a starter out of a 5th gen 5sfe work, my buddy has one

should work

but if it didnt start by rolling it, i think u have a bigger issue then a starter.

[slow94st]

why do i have to let it out slow

[devilsden97]

why do i have to let it out slow

cuz the car will bairly be moving....

its like going from a stand still. U have to give the engine some gas to get the rpm up to overcome the inertia of the stationary car, and the friction between the tires and the road. If the car is rolling at <5mph u need to put the clutch in VERY softly, and easy, so that it will catch and the cars inertia will be transfered to the flywheel and then to the crank then to the pistons then combustion and the car SHOULD start.

its a very hard trick to do...but its one of the perks of driving stick...u can ALWAYS start it.

[slow94st]

i was letting it out fast, i need a big hill, 2maro im goin to advanceauto parts and im takin my starters and have them put them on the machine and test both of them

This post has been edited by slow94st: Jun 19, 2007 - 10:32 PM

[slow94st]

gt starters dont work in st's, i took my starters to advance auto parts and found out both of my starters are bad so i am going to pick a new one up 2maro $103 jeez