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post Jun 18, 2007 - 9:56 PM
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Let me check my old harnesses tomorrow - I may the proper clips to go with your parts. You'd just need to cut and solder.


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post Jun 19, 2007 - 6:08 AM
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QUOTE(RUNNIN-LOW @ Jun 18, 2007 - 9:36 PM) [snapback]569850[/snapback]

k well humm.. where do i get the (4th pic)injector resistor pack from would a thrid gen mr2 pack work??..and also do i even need the(5th pic) noise reducer coil to be plugged in anywas..ooh yeah i know where the starter plug goes but that was just to show yah my problem..i might just take my old start and rebuild it.anyone have aclue about the third picture.

yea mr2 of the same generation would work. The third pic looks like a map sensor or cam position sensor. Look at the color of the wires and look in the wiring diagram. That may help. Also you can look at connectors in the ewd. I cant say for sure b/c my swap is a gen 2
post Jun 19, 2007 - 1:26 PM
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QUOTE(RUNNIN-LOW @ Jun 18, 2007 - 7:36 PM) [snapback]569850[/snapback]

k well humm.. where do i get the (4th pic)injector resistor pack from would a thrid gen mr2 pack work??..and also do i even need the(5th pic) noise reducer coil to be plugged in anywas..ooh yeah i know where the starter plug goes but that was just to show yah my problem..i might just take my old start and rebuild it.anyone have aclue about the third picture.
I'd help, but the pics aren't showing for me. I have a 3rd gen swap and I did the harness myself and should be able to figure it out if I can see the pics...

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post Jun 19, 2007 - 4:39 PM
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I'm not sure what that 3rd pic is. It looks like it has 2 wires, so its not the map or distributer connectors, nor is it the TPS or Idle control. Wire colors would be helpful.

No luck on the connectors on my spare harnesses, sorry.

Good luck finding a 3rd gen MR2 or ST205 injector resistor pack. You may just want to buy a couple of generic connectors connectors and use the resistor pack you have. The only difference between a 3rd gen and 2nd gen resistor packs are connectors.


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post Jun 19, 2007 - 6:17 PM
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well if anyone can could they take pictures of there resistor pack and show me and also there noise reducer coil..or just take closes pictures of the of the things i need..please i need this thng runnin..soon well yeah if anyone could it would be helpfull..


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post Jun 21, 2007 - 2:56 AM
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Ill have a pic up tomorow



post Jun 21, 2007 - 7:12 AM
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pic 2 looks kinda like it may be for the pressure switch on your AC line.

pics 3,4 are almost certainly for the injector resistor pack.

pic 6 may be for the fuel pump resistor but that's just a shot in the dark.

There is a 3rd gen resistor pack for sale here:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=43182
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post Jun 21, 2007 - 10:29 AM
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Pic 6 is definitely a 2nd gen injector resistor pack, I have the same one on my ST185. Pics 3 and 4 are of the 3rd gen plug going to the resistor pack (which I have on my 6th gen). The fuel pump resistor pack only has 2 wires.

Like I said before, he has an injector resistor pack, it just has the wrong connector for the harness. Some cutting and crimping (or soldering) would have him up and running in an hour.

BTW - I found a spare 2nd gen starter plug last night. It came with a bosch starter I bought a few weeks ago. So if your thinking about rebuilding your starter anyways, just go and buy the bosch, and you'll get the plug you need with it! Or I can send you the spare I have, you'll need to cut off the plug on your harness and solder this one in. just pay for shipping (from Michigan) and its yours.


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post Jun 21, 2007 - 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(scothaniel @ Jun 21, 2007 - 10:29 AM) [snapback]570875[/snapback]

Pic 6 is definitely a 2nd gen injector resistor pack, I have the same one on my ST185. Pics 3 and 4 are of the 3rd gen plug going to the resistor pack (which I have on my 6th gen). The fuel pump resistor pack only has 2 wires.

Like I said before, he has an injector resistor pack, it just has the wrong connector for the harness. Some cutting and crimping (or soldering) would have him up and running in an hour.


This is pic six and I see a total of 0 resistor packs, 1 coil, and 1 igniter. Check your facts again before you answer so absolutely. The pic I posted in my first reply has the 3rd gen injector and fuel pump resistors if you need clarification.
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post Jun 21, 2007 - 2:15 PM
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Sorry man, I miscounted. I was looking at pic 7 when I said that, not pic 6. Your absolutely correct.

And toyotacrazy was right, pic 7 is the cruise control plug - I thought it was the 2nd gen injector resistor like whats in the middle of this pic:

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So I was way off - he'll need the resistor pack you posted earlier.

I still say pic 6 is the noise suppressor plug (black / orange and white/black wires) This is the same part thats on the 7A and 5S motors too, sits right next to the ignitor.

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post Jun 21, 2007 - 4:26 PM
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6 may very well be for a noise supressor but I don't have one on my 94 GT 3S swap. I looked for it on my harnesses for quite a while until I decided it must be in the fuse box. I have no idea how it's done on the the 3rd gen 3S though.


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post Jun 22, 2007 - 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(scothaniel @ Jun 21, 2007 - 12:15 PM) [snapback]570940[/snapback]
I still say pic 6 is the noise suppressor plug (black / orange and white/black wires) This is the same part thats on the 7A and 5S motors too, sits right next to the ignitor.
I still can't see the original pics... (probably blocked from work) but this pic might help:

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On the ST205, the noise suppressor, ignitor and coil are all on the same bracket on the firewall. The noise suppressor is about 3/4" around - the little white thing in between and just to the right the ignitor and the intercooler overflow tank in the picture above.

Make sure that whole braket is well grounded. I used a special wire from there to the ground connection on the top transmission because I didn't have the stock holes in my firewall.

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post Jun 22, 2007 - 7:37 PM
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thanks everyone for helping me out dame what would i do without yah..cool i got the fuel resistor pack thing cover now i know what i need and how i can rigg it to work..eggman tode me how..but the funny thing is that how come i still cant start my car from my igintion..yeah im so lost..im not sure how dr.tweak did it but yeah it looks right..still going to talk to him tomorrow..about the problem. kk another thing since i was able to start the car manually i some how cant put the beast in first gear..anyone have a clue i know for a fact i did it right..im useing my stock tranny..i have a stage three 5s CM disk and stage three 3s pressure plate..with a stock resurface flywill..anyone have a clue why i still cant put the beast in first.??thanks yah and eggman for the help..!!!


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post Jun 22, 2007 - 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(RUNNIN-LOW @ Jun 22, 2007 - 7:37 PM) [snapback]571418[/snapback]

thanks everyone for helping me out dame what would i do without yah..cool i got the fuel resistor pack thing cover now i know what i need and how i can rigg it to work..eggman tode me how..but the funny thing is that how come i still cant start my car from my igintion..yeah im so lost..im not sure how dr.tweak did it but yeah it looks right..still going to talk to him tomorrow..about the problem. kk another thing since i was able to start the car manually i some how cant put the beast in first gear..anyone have a clue i know for a fact i did it right..im useing my stock tranny..i have a stage three 5s CM disk and stage three 3s pressure plate..with a stock resurface flywill..anyone have a clue why i still cant put the beast in first.??thanks yah and eggman for the help..!!!

Can you shift when its off? If you can't then most likely bent shifter cables. Did you get all of the air out when you bled the clutch? GL gettin it goin man smile.gif
post Jun 23, 2007 - 11:46 AM
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Doesnt look like any supermodel I ever seen


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post Jun 24, 2007 - 12:21 AM
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its the sylinoid , my corolla did the same thing , the starters are the same , the sylinoids are notorious for problems on thse starters.


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post Jun 25, 2007 - 6:58 PM
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well thanks to all that are tryin to help..thanks much to dr.tweak who went threw the whole harness with me on the phone thanks much..thanks eggman for helpin me out on the resistor pack thingy..but all in all i am lookin for the resistor pack for daily driving..thanks much to everyone again and yeah i love this web sight lots of help!!!ill soon undate on video of my beast running the streets of minnesota thanks all..


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