? about installing struts&coilovers (ground control)... Options

[hashmaster52]

ok so a couple weeks ago my friend n i installed my new kyb gr2's with ground control coilovers. well, u know how the stock springs are really wide in diameter compared to ground controls? well there was like a cover that was on the top of each of the front springs and when i put them back on the new setup, they wiggled. now they make a lot of noise. wut should i do? iono if itll b ok if i take off the covers....thx for the help in advance.

[Harold_Fastwaker]

A cover over the spring? Or the shock? I never had any kind of cover over my springs.

Wait, unless you mean the top part for the clamping? Where the nut bolts the spring down to the shock. Is that what you are talking about?


In that case, are you sure you got the right ground controls? Or did you install the rear springs on the front and vice versa?

[hashmaster52]

A cover over the spring? Or the shock? I never had any kind of cover over my springs.

Wait, unless you mean the top part for the clamping? Where the nut bolts the spring down to the shock. Is that what you are talking about?


In that case, are you sure you got the right ground controls? Or did you install the rear springs on the front and vice versa?

that might b wut im talkin about. im sure i got the right ground controls because the first ones i was sent were for a 2000 celica(it said on the sticker on the box) and so i called to get the right ones sent to me. so, they sent me the right ones (94-99 celica). in the box they were divided into 4 sections with a coilover and top hat in each section. i looked at the diagram that came with it and im pretty sure that we put the right ones in the right places. i wasnt sure which springs went where so i looked at where the flat top hats go and where the pointed ones go. im pretty sure we have them in the right places. we had to grind the struts a little bit in the back in order for the coilovers to slide on also. is that wut is usually required?

[95CelicaST]

yeah. There is a ring of sorts that needs to be grinded down on the KYB's to allow the ground controls to slide all the way on.

I would make sure the right top hats are in the right location. I believe the flat tops are in front and angled ones are in back.... its been a while since I had mine installed.

[hashmaster52]

yeah. There is a ring of sorts that needs to be grinded down on the KYB's to allow the ground controls to slide all the way on.

I would make sure the right top hats are in the right location. I believe the flat tops are in front and angled ones are in back.... its been a while since I had mine installed.

so then urs doesnt make any noise?

[95CelicaST]

The only noise mine would make was a little bit of a pop when turning the wheel at low speeds (less than 10 MPH).

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

Make sure to grease up the top caps really good.

[hashmaster52]

ok so the question is this: u know how theres a plate that holds the stock springs in place? does that need to be removed?

[hashmaster52]

ummm can someone plz lemme know if that needs to be removed. if yes, then the only thing that should be on top of the springs/coilovers is the tophat, correct? or no? and im supposed to grease between the tophats and the springs? thx in advance

[creis]

ok hold on.. when doing the install you replace the stock strut with the new one and keep the stock top hat that bults to the car. the coilover comes with a threaded tube base, to install you put 2 of the rubber O rings around the base of the shock 1 about .5 inches from the top and the other about 4 inches from the top (where the mettle rod goes in and out.) grese if you want (i did not with no issues) and slide over the threaded tube base it compleatly goes over the strut down to where the bottum hat of the strut is welded to the shock. then the bottum screw bult that goes onto the threded base that gives you the changeable ride hight. then a thin rubber washer sits on that, then the small spring, then another rubber washer and the top hat, then place the stock top hat and bult to shock then bult to car.
grese the rubber washers, and if you want the top hat but I never did and I have no problems (I have kyb-gr2's with Ground control's)

hope that makes sence.

This post has been edited by creis: Oct 10, 2007 - 5:06 AM

[hashmaster52]

ok hold on.. when doing the install you replace the stock strut with the new one and keep the stock top hat that bults to the car. the coilover comes with a threaded tube base, to install you put 2 of the rubber O rings around the base of the shock 1 about .5 inches from the top and the other about 4 inches from the top (where the mettle rod goes in and out.) grese if you want (i did not with no issues) and slide over the threaded tube base it compleatly goes over the strut down to where the bottum hat of the strut is welded to the shock. then the bottum screw bult that goes onto the threded base that gives you the changeable ride hight. then a thin rubber washer sits on that, then the small spring, then another rubber washer and the top hat, then place the stock top hat and bult to shock then bult to car.
grese the rubber washers, and if you want the top hat but I never did and I have no problems (I have kyb-gr2's with Ground control's)

hope that makes sence.

so u kept the large black plate that covers the top of the stock springs? even though it is a lot bigger than the ground control springs? then y does mine make so much noise while turning? it seems to pop if i turn far left or far right. it also seems a little loose because when i lift the car, i can move it(the plate) easily....im stuck

This post has been edited by hashmaster52: Oct 10, 2007 - 6:41 PM

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

You can leave the plate on there. Just looks cleaner if you remove it.

[hashmaster52]

so then i cann remove it and leave the tophat as the only thing on top of the springs? also does anyone know why the springs pop when i turn the wheels far left and then again when i turn them far right?

[playr158]

you have to leave the black OEM top hat....

you are getting spring binding more than likely grease the top like crazy with bearing grease...or you completely screw up the install

[trdss111]

you have to leave the black OEM top hat....

you are getting spring binding more than likely grease the top like crazy with bearing grease...or you completely screw up the install

ya the spring is coiling up and snapping back into place when you turn. sounds like the springs might be too short tho. are you sure you didn mix up the springs

[hashmaster52]

you have to leave the black OEM top hat....

you are getting spring binding more than likely grease the top like crazy with bearing grease...or you completely screw up the install

ya the spring is coiling up and snapping back into place when you turn. sounds like the springs might be too short tho. are you sure you didn mix up the springs

im pretty sure i didnt mix up the springs....they came separated in the box. there were 4 sections all divided up with 1 spring, coilover, and top hat in each section. i couldnt tell which springs went where so i looked at the diagram i was sent (which was crappy) and i could only tell the differences of the tophats. i cant remember if it showed the flat tophats or the ones with a little bump in the front, but i jus went by wut it said. so if i grease the tophats, it should improve? wut kinda grease should i use? and it just seems like the stock plate is too big. iono maybe its jus me...

[hashmaster52]

ok so i think i fugured out wut was wrong....first of all, the guy i paid to do it used an impact gun, so he made it too toght and so messed up the bearings that go on top of the stock plate. another bonus is that he put one of the springs on upside down, and im guessing thats no good, especially for progressive springs....so, imma buy some bearings n get that fixed. also, im removing the stock plate (big black one) and just leaving the aluminim tophats that came with the kit. thx everyone who replied and sry for bein such a noob. lol. i learn a lot here tho so thx again.