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post Oct 10, 2003 - 12:48 AM
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Just re-build it first. In the long run, you will be better off.

No matter what the cost.

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post Oct 10, 2003 - 1:10 AM
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oh yea that will be done

and for anyone that need a rebuild kit...

http://www.rpmrons.com/Toykits.html


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post Oct 10, 2003 - 2:23 AM
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Im with macavely in the sense of screw a motor swap. I know alot of you are hardcore 3sgte fans but for me and my GT the burien T-kit will do just fine to lay out 170whp(intercooled). Im not looking for drag but i wanna kick ass. I say to macavely do what you can and if you blow the motor go to E-bay and get another, youll never know the limits with out some complications. Im doing the T-kit and I really dont care about about a swap, ctually the more I think about it it pointless. If you want a 3sgte why not get the real thing. Youll spend close to the same on it with the price of your car plus the swap. But anyway thats my opinion.
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post Oct 10, 2003 - 4:19 AM
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QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 10, 2003 - 2:23 AM)
Im with macavely in the sense of screw a motor swap. I know alot of you are hardcore 3sgte fans but for me and my GT the burien T-kit will do just fine to lay out 170whp(intercooled). Im not looking for drag but i wanna kick ass. I say to macavely do what you can and if you blow the motor go to E-bay and get another, youll never know the limits with out some complications. Im doing the T-kit and I really dont care about about a swap, ctually the more I think about it it pointless. If you want a 3sgte why not get the real thing. Youll spend close to the same on it with the price of your car plus the swap. But anyway thats my opinion.
Peace

thanks for the support... and one of my uncles works at a toyota dealership so i'm sure he can get me a nice disconunt on and engine if i need it..


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post Oct 10, 2003 - 8:23 AM
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i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but boosting a 7AFE to 200hp is pushing the envelope


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post Oct 10, 2003 - 9:24 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 8:23 AM)
i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but boosting a 7AFE to 200hp is pushing the envelope

yea pushing the envelope is what i do best thats why i need a new steering knuckle and axel now cause i push the car way past its limits...


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post Oct 10, 2003 - 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 5:23 AM)
i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but boosting a 7AFE to 200hp is pushing the envelope

if a 7afe can handle 25psi for a week of driving(even after it had lost all its oil at one point, and over heated a few times before the boost was turned up to 25psi), than impretty sure it can handle the psi needed to make it a 200hp engine.

no one will know how much a 7afe can take if they dont try. i might try to find out this comming year before my warranty runs out.


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post Oct 10, 2003 - 7:16 PM
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10psi would be enough for me wink.gif

Hey mac, you might see if they'll send you 4agze pistons in stead of stock 7a;)

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post Oct 15, 2003 - 8:12 PM
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I say its no fun if you don't find out the limit of your enegine
post Oct 16, 2003 - 6:57 PM
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QUOTE (FallenHero @ Oct 11, 2003 - 2:16 AM)
10psi would be enough for me wink.gif

Hey mac, you might see if they'll send you 4agze pistons in stead of stock 7a;)

Jon

I got my 4AGZE pistons today and I'll put them when I'll do the whole turbo thing....
Anyway since I don't know the measures of 7A pistons I don't know if the compression rated for the GE head will be the same of FE head....Who know this???? confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
post Oct 16, 2003 - 8:43 PM
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QUOTE (CelicaGuy97 @ Oct 15, 2003 - 6:12 PM)
I say its no fun if you don't find out the limit of your enegine

Yeah, but if you're limited on funds, it's not fun wasting money on an engine that will requires LOTS of money just to be able to compete with an engine that's already built for performance...
post Oct 17, 2003 - 7:42 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 6:23 AM)
i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but boosting a 7AFE to 200hp is pushing the envelope

u gotta be kiddin. im only 40hp away (dyno proven.) and my safc settings were not 100% correct when i took it down to the dyno. there were also no fan to push air through my IC. 200hp is not a problem, im probably putting down more than the dyno says b/c of thoes limiting factors, and its still running STOCK injectors. so upgrade them and i could be fueled to even more.
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QUOTE (zipstrips @ Oct 17, 2003 - 5:42 PM)
QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Oct 10, 2003 - 6:23 AM)
i dunno man, no doubt TOyota makes good shizit but boosting a 7AFE to 200hp is pushing the envelope

u gotta be kiddin. im only 40hp away (dyno proven.) and my safc settings were not 100% correct when i took it down to the dyno. there were also no fan to push air through my IC. 200hp is not a problem, im probably putting down more than the dyno says b/c of thoes limiting factors, and its still running STOCK injectors. so upgrade them and i could be fueled to even more.

40 HP for an economy engine may not sound like much, but it is... once you reach 200, I'd like to see how reliable it is... I don't have first hand experience with this, but there have been board members (on Celica.net) who's applications didn't last them very long... I think 180 was one of the highest someone attained with the 7A before it blew...

Good luck with your project tho bro. I would definitely like to see you succeed. There aren't many people doing what you're doing, and if you do reach 200HP reliably, you'll definitely give hope to a lot of eager tuners.

Keep us posted bro.

-Ray
post Oct 20, 2003 - 6:55 AM
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macavely, how far along are you on doing this? it's something that i'm seriously considering, and are you going to swap transmissions? was looking at first at swapping but if you can get 200 hp i'll give it a go!!! good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
post Oct 20, 2003 - 8:01 AM
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i was thinking a bit more and was wondering if there are any transmissions that will bolt to the 7a-fe that either come with or have an aftermarket lsd available?
post Oct 20, 2003 - 8:10 AM
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QUOTE (van95st @ Oct 20, 2003 - 6:55 AM)
macavely, how far along are you on doing this? it's something that i'm seriously considering, and are you going to swap transmissions? was looking at first at swapping but if you can get 200 hp i'll give it a go!!! good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

right now i'm just gathering information talking to people that have boosted and i have just gotten a lot of great info from someone that has been boosting a 7afe for the last 4 years...


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post Oct 20, 2003 - 8:12 AM
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QUOTE (van95st @ Oct 20, 2003 - 8:01 AM)
i was thinking a bit more and was wondering if there are any transmissions that will bolt to the 7a-fe that either come with or have an aftermarket lsd available?

yea i'm going to so a manule tranny swap... and i was wondering the same thing... i'm going to have to look into it... but as far as i know the stock tranny should handle anywere up to 200hp..


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