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post May 7, 2008 - 1:30 PM
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Hi, I am new to the site and I have had my 94 gt since january. I enjoy the site a lot. I have searched the forums about this but stilll have a few questions. I have a ebay cai (mostly for the sound as I dont know if it helps performance much), but I want to try something else to improve the cars performance. My celica has 112k miles on it and I cant afford to turbo. I have read about different members exhaust setups and I think I want a 2.25 with resonator and magnaflow muffler. I am graduating at the end of may and will have some cash to spend. Can anyone tell me about the performance to be gained from this exhaust set up or if there is something else i can do to the car that will be a better use of money(possibly ebay headers?). The car is my daily driver so it has to pass emissions. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks
post May 7, 2008 - 2:17 PM
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Better low end torque and better top end from then the factory 2" exhaust piping. Reason being is that your allowing the engine to "breath" more easily by reducing back-pressure and having a better flowing exhaust flow due to the the increased pipe diameter. I've been from 2.5" and recently downgraded to 2.25" on my pipe diameter and I noticed that I have more torque on my bottom to mid rpms and haven't sacrificed any high end power since the 2.5" piping. So yeah, I recommend 2.25" to everyone with a 2.0 to 1.6L engine and anything higher than a 2.0 go with 2.5" piping.

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post May 7, 2008 - 2:59 PM
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what is a resonator? pics?


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post May 7, 2008 - 3:27 PM
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Here's my 2.25 exhaust setup. This is an under-axle catback consisting of a magnaflow high flow cat. converter, 20" 2.25" inlet/outlet magnaflow resonator, and a 2.5" megan racing n1 muffer. This was put together by a local exhaust shop.

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And a Video Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kHzpSc3D1Y
Here is what I used:
Magnaflow Cat. Converter
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Magnaflow resonator/muffler
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Megan Racing N1 muffler
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BTW, the overall tone of your exhaust is dependant on the type of rear muffler your using.





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post May 8, 2008 - 8:42 PM
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isn't usually better to have a stright pipe rather than to have heaps of bends?


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post May 8, 2008 - 9:06 PM
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it is better for a turbo^^^^


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post May 15, 2008 - 5:35 PM
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netrata, awesome post! Where did you buy parts?
post May 15, 2008 - 6:31 PM
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The magnaflow resonator and high flow cat. converter I bought from summitracing.com and the megan racing n1 muffler I bought from ebay lol. But soon it will change with a blitz nur muffler.


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post May 15, 2008 - 9:24 PM
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how much power did you gain?


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post May 16, 2008 - 8:49 AM
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to assdyno +10?
Really more like +2?


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post May 17, 2008 - 4:56 PM
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Honestly i'm not sure because there is no dyno here on Maui. But all I can see that torque and high end power improved from what I can notice.


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post May 17, 2008 - 9:51 PM
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Thanks for all of the replies. I think now I should go with a 2.5 setup not 2.25. I also think it should be under the rear axel. Does anyone have advice about where to start the 2.5 pipes? after the flex pipe maybe? Also what differences would there be without a resonator.
post May 20, 2008 - 2:52 AM
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QUOTE (netrata @ May 7, 2008 - 3:27 PM) *
Here's my 2.25 exhaust setup. This is an under-axle catback consisting of a magnaflow high flow cat. converter, 20" 2.25" inlet/outlet magnaflow resonator, and a 2.5" megan racing n1 muffer. This was put together by a local exhaust shop.





And a Video Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kHzpSc3D1Y
Here is what I used:
Magnaflow Cat. Converter

Magnaflow resonator/muffler

Megan Racing N1 muffler


BTW, the overall tone of your exhaust is dependant on the type of rear muffler your using.




whats that the pic of the three one??? is it a resonator??? also what does it do???


whats that the pic of the three one??? is it a resonator??? also what does it do???
post May 20, 2008 - 8:37 AM
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3rd pix is a rear muffler. What this part of the exhaust does is it sets the overall tone of the exhaust system. What a resonator does is simply muffle the exhaust tone so it's quieter.


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post May 20, 2008 - 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (94CeliGTguy @ May 17, 2008 - 9:51 PM) *
Thanks for all of the replies. I think now I should go with a 2.5 setup not 2.25. I also think it should be under the rear axel. Does anyone have advice about where to start the 2.5 pipes? after the flex pipe maybe? Also what differences would there be without a resonator.


Im gettin' a 2,5" over the axel going exhaust, from cat to rear.


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post May 20, 2008 - 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (netrata @ May 7, 2008 - 4:27 PM) *
Here's my 2.25 exhaust setup. This is an under-axle catback consisting of a magnaflow high flow cat. converter, 20" 2.25" inlet/outlet magnaflow resonator, and a 2.5" megan racing n1 muffer. This was put together by a local exhaust shop.


And a Video Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kHzpSc3D1Y
Here is what I used:
Magnaflow Cat. Converter

BTW, the overall tone of your exhaust is dependant on the type of rear muffler your using.


How much does that setup usually cost including exhaust installation and parts?

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post May 21, 2008 - 7:28 PM
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Parts and installation on the car cost roughly $340. Shipping for the parts to me was around $60 because of the weight of the parts and the distance from the mainland U.S. to Hawaii.

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post May 24, 2008 - 3:12 AM
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In my st202 I have BEAMS Red-Top swaped .....
Going to upgrade my exhaust ....
Now I have beams-header and Y-pipe finished 60MM after that from catalic-converter all parts are stock .....

I bought SARD Sports Catalyzer from Altezza 3s-ge beams (IN-60MM, OUT-60MM) with resonator .....



Looking for RS-R 60mm muffler .....



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post May 26, 2008 - 10:55 PM
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http://spideraccessories.stores.yahoo.net/mumaststtip.html im thinking about getting this exhaust think its a good idea??
post May 28, 2008 - 5:12 PM
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I honestly would say yes. That is actually the muffler I originally wanted but then decided to stick with N1 style mufflers instead.


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