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post Aug 13, 2008 - 1:32 PM
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O.K... So I plan on swaping my 5sfe for a heavily built 3sgte with aprox 500hp. I was originally planing on just using my current trans. But people are telling me that the 5sfe trans are weak and won't hold the power. The engine I'm buying is the gen 3 st205 motor and it comes with the awd trans. Is there anyway to convert it to fwd? And if I did would it be any stronger than the one I have? Or should I use the MR2 trans.? And what the hell is the difference? frown.gif
post Aug 13, 2008 - 1:36 PM
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QUOTE (celica_122 @ Aug 13, 2008 - 2:32 PM) *
O.K... So I plan on swaping my 5sfe for a heavily built 3sgte with aprox 500hp. I was originally planing on just using my current trans. But people are telling me that the 5sfe trans are weak and won't hold the power. The engine I'm buying is the gen 3 st205 motor and it comes with the awd trans. Is there anyway to convert it to fwd? And if I did would it be any stronger than the one I have? Or should I use the MR2 trans.? And what the hell is the difference? frown.gif


first.

lol 500hp. fwd? fail


2nd
the awd tranny is stronger, but i dont believe anyone has tried (because of $$$ reasons) to make it a strickly FWD tranny.

3rd.
if u really plan to do this, the E153 LSD trany from a Mr2 turbo would be the way to go.

4th
the tranny u pick wont matter...because with 500whp on a fwd car, your going to wheel spin untill like 4th gear.


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post Aug 13, 2008 - 1:42 PM
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where can i swap my old 5sfe for a built 3sgte! biggrin.gif

haha anyways, you'll want the e153 strictly because it has longer gearing & its stronger than the s54. (stock 5sfe tranny)

and rethink 500hp in a FWD car. i only had 330whp thats like 370-380 crank horse and it was just stupid.
no traction till 4th gear. i mean it was fast as ever but id rather no have to wait till around 80mph to hook up.
it will be a highway monster though.


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post Aug 13, 2008 - 1:47 PM
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QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 14, 2008 - 2:36 AM) *
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the awd tranny is stronger, but i dont believe anyone has tried (because of $$$ reasons) to make it a strickly FWD tranny.


A guy on celicatech.com has done it. Check the stickies, that post should be there somewhere.


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post Aug 13, 2008 - 2:30 PM
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I'm building the car mainly for drag racing, maybe a weekend cruiser... I will be running drag slicks most of the time. Besides you don't get any traction out of anything with 500hp. I just wanna know which trans. will last longer. Thanks!
post Aug 13, 2008 - 2:56 PM
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E153 then but those slicks you plan will tear through that fairly quickly too. You actually have the motor picked out or are we dreaming/schemeing ATM?


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post Aug 13, 2008 - 3:00 PM
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meh, plenty of mr2s in the 10's & 11's with e153's they can take plenty of abuse.


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post Aug 14, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 13, 2008 - 2:36 PM) *
lol 500hp. fwd? fail


http://www.youtube.com/v/GXRq1dRXwBI

Civic Type-R GT40 turbo 800whp

That's my cousin's

This post has been edited by reko: Aug 14, 2008 - 11:02 AM


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post Aug 14, 2008 - 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (reko @ Aug 14, 2008 - 12:02 PM) *
QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 13, 2008 - 2:36 PM) *
lol 500hp. fwd? fail


Civic Type-R GT40 turbo 800whp

That's my cousin's


Gratz to your cousin.
but last time i looked around a TOYOTA forum... no one on a FWD platform and eclipsed itchy's 330.

yes i know there are some hondas and nissans with stupid 500+ whp...but imo those are dyno queens.

500whp is fail. period.

if your serious about this., e153, with ALOT of suspesion work to make it stick. i suggest talking to reko's cousin.


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post Aug 14, 2008 - 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (reko @ Aug 14, 2008 - 12:02 PM) *
QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 13, 2008 - 2:36 PM) *
lol 500hp. fwd? fail


http://www.youtube.com/v/GXRq1dRXwBI

Civic Type-R GT40 turbo 800whp

That's my cousin's



Sorry.. but that car doesnt have 800hp


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post Aug 14, 2008 - 11:44 AM
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iirc this is Jeffrey Burke's mr2 that currently has 800rwhp. (ie, it says it had 600whp at the time) i cant find the official video. (there is one floating around)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB3EKSGFTr4...feature=related

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post Aug 15, 2008 - 1:44 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 14, 2008 - 12:34 PM) *
QUOTE (reko @ Aug 14, 2008 - 12:02 PM) *
QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 13, 2008 - 2:36 PM) *
lol 500hp. fwd? fail


http://www.youtube.com/v/GXRq1dRXwBI

Civic Type-R GT40 turbo 800whp

That's my cousin's



Sorry.. but that car doesnt have 800hp

Dude thats my cousin, why you bitchin? like if you knew him?

The guy who's filmin' is in a LS vtec turbo and he's gettin' smokeeeddd and on top of that my cousin is launching in 2nd gear otherwise he's spinning too much

My cousin is TF Performance owner www.tf-performance.com

If you dont believe me, ask him ahahahahah

He sent his block down at JE pistons and they did his block,
he has an Edelbrock intake manifold
Edelbrock Throttle Body 75mm Victor Racing
forged head
ferrera valve springs
port and polish
blueprinted
HKS cams
MSD ignition kit
AEM coil ignition plugs
GT40r (real one, not a rebuild / trim of a... or anything like that)
turbosmart megasonic BOV
turbosmart Power-Gate60 wastegate
LSD tranny
cutsom manifold by RD Turbo prod.
custom oil catch can
31.5''x5''x23.5'' FMIC
cometic head gasket
the car is tuned by is friend at http://www.rdturbo.com/

and so ****ing much more

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This post has been edited by reko: Aug 15, 2008 - 1:48 PM


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post Aug 15, 2008 - 1:49 PM
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nvm

This post has been edited by DEATH: Aug 15, 2008 - 1:51 PM


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QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM) *
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post Aug 19, 2008 - 7:09 PM
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how about this for a FWD

http://www.317connections.com/idrc/jeffround1.wmv

http://www.317connections.com/idrc/jeffround2.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_aADaL2jwk

This post has been edited by Smaay: Aug 19, 2008 - 7:09 PM


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post Aug 19, 2008 - 7:18 PM
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QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Aug 14, 2008 - 12:29 PM) *
but imo those are dyno queens.



point proven by the above post.


(also 1 of your 3 links works)


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