West Coast Laws, Daddy took the 6G away... Options

[Crem]

Well over here they don't crush your car you can either come up with big $ to get them out of impound or they send them to auction where you can then see some kid driving around your pride and joy.
Our cop cars are the V8 holdens and are either blue and white cruisers or Bright red things used for highway patrol and they stand out like dogs balls.

I had one pass me in the middle of nowhere he was doing at least 135km in a 100km zone ****s me cops can break the law at will.

[DEATH]

You mean what we call the GTO? My buddy has an '06 [So LS2] and that thing is mean with just a halfass exhaust.

[Random_Stranger]

I have only read the starter of this topic.


I have been searching for a way to fight this. I believe there are many enthusiasts out there who would like to fight this as well. Since the laws are made in America "By the people, For the people", I believe a stand should be taken.

Even the bad things of society such as these "street racers" who do not take into account the innocent lives at stake, the fines we are charged on top of our hobby helps our economy for California. Fines as high as $2500, just for wanting to modify your car is a nice chunk of change to help California as we are in debt and need money for roads and school funding, and so on.

Oh, you laugh because that sounds like I am justifying things? Well did you ever think about people getting to buy trucks because it "looks cool" and paying extra in registering it because it produces more smog? It is like the same thing. California runs by the golden rule, you just get taxed a lil bit.


I never really noticed car modification being too big of a problem, but yeah, clogging up gas stations just to show off should be a no no. If people cleaned up after their messes, didn't do stupid stuff with a chance of hurting someone, then yeah, should be no problem.


They claim street racing is the number 1 cause of death in teens and automobile accidents. That may be true to some degree, although they never take into account how many people die from cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs (yes, the ones the doctor prescribes as many antidepressants and such are addictive).

With this in mind, I think we have a right to modify our vehicles and we can fight it based on the simple fact that other people out there are killing human beings everyday with their products, and they are allowed to get away with it. We just have a passion that much hard work and time is put into.


There has to be a way to fight this.

[njccmd2002]

call your congressman,

write letters

and wait, thats the only thing you can do

[Random_Stranger]

call your congressman,

write letters

and wait, thats the only thing you can do

Thanks, I'll do that then

[paul_gt4]

this is our very own evo in the city atm, but word is they are due a change and they will be getting the new evo x FQ360



And the Exige in testing and advertising

[CelicaST_CALI]

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Aug 5, 2008 - 10:52 PM

[Lexicon_Devil]

That's impressive. I'd be checking out the cop car if I got
pulled over. I'd be making him pop the hood. Hah.

[99GT]

Theres a Integra Type R cop in MN.

[wannabealilfaste...]

How is Oregon and Washington with their laws?
Do they make you do the "hood popping" on a
standard pull-over?

Yeah i live in San Diego and sometimes i cant stand the cops here. When resident evil extinction first came out me and some buddies hopped in my celi, and went downtown.Of course if any of you live here you know that on a friday night things get crazy down there, you get one of two types of people, the ones that flood the street, and generally act stupid in there intoxication. Or the wealthy to extremely wealthy crowd,who figure they are above everyone because of their social status. This was the weekend after i had installed my muffler, and like i said we were gonna watch a movie, when one of the 05' and up mustang gt's pull up to me with his giant chrome wheels, and super loud exhaust system and starts revving at me hardcore. He friggin revved so loud it set off quite a few car alarms, to say the least, of course there was one of those annoying bicycle cops behind us, who then proceeded to tap on my window and tell me to pull over to the side. Meanwhile the light turns green the mustang now probably laughing his ass off that he escaped by pinning it on another person, drives off the people in the bar across the street start cheering, and after arguing with this dan akroid (sp) looking cop for fifteen minutes, and being late for my movie he gives me a ticket saying im lucky im just getting that,or he would have givin me the 300$ go to court and have them look at my engine bay and make sure the entire car is legal ticket.Plus during the whole thing he tells me "licence and registration...pop ur hood." At the time all i had was a stock engine bay with a red filter on the intake pipe (the previous owner disconnected the stock air box and stuck a filter on the end of the intake pipe converting it to short ram.) and he looks at me and proceeds to give me a "Does the dmv know about this!" and im just like whatever long story short cops are assholes. I have another story about a seperate incident if you guys wanna hear it

[sawny]

sorry if its already said, but in the one of the cops said, if you showed paper work and proved none of the parts were stolen, you could get your car back with some fines?


and the only reason they crushed it was because they had parts that were stolen?

[forkee]

sorry if its already said, but in the one of the cops said, if you showed paper work and proved none of the parts were stolen, you could get your car back with some fines?


and the only reason they crushed it was because they had parts that were stolen?

only? im sorry but if my car parts were found in any other person's car without my knowledge, id not only want to crush their car into itty bitty pieces but i would prolly tie the bastard to the inside of the car while its happening. There's no excuse of having someone else's engine with either no paperwork or receipts whatsoever or with the id number scratched beyond recognition. That just screams shady.

Maybe california is being too harsh with the car crushing and the bluetooth laws, but its definitely improved day to day living. So much that it's hard to find ricers anymore (at least the typical civic, accord, prelude type). It almost seems like they all got wiser and bought better cars so now theres tons of 350z and g35's. There's not even that many evos or stis around. Its also great not seeing people on their phones causing accidents. Im not saying it works 100% of the time but its a dramatic improvement.

lol and if people started retaliating around here with rifles or anything resembling weapons, screw the national guard, they would get shot/snipered/gunned down by both the LAPD and SWAT before they even had a chance to sht bricks. You just don't mess with cops around here.

They claim street racing is the number 1 cause of death in teens and automobile accidents. That may be true to some degree, although they never take into account how many people die from cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs (yes, the ones the doctor prescribes as many antidepressants and such are addictive).

With this in mind, I think we have a right to modify our vehicles and we can fight it based on the simple fact that other people out there are killing human beings everyday with their products, and they are allowed to get away with it. We just have a passion that much hard work and time is put into.

street racing deaths are directly countable. deaths related to smoking, alcohol, or drugs are harder to pin on the actual substance because those are secondary to the main cause of death which would be malfunctioning organs. products when used correctly rarely kill people. thats why we have such strict regulators like the FDA (i know its for food but its all i can think of at this hour) that have to approve things before it goes out. Much hard work is put into the cigarette, alcohol, and especially pharmaceutical companies, much more so than modifying cars. Think of all the jobs people have as scientists, testers, blue collar workers, etc that make up those companies. Not to mention the amount of money the economy rakes in from the profits. If you can prove that the existence of those products produce more harm than good, then you might have a fighting chance. But arguing and saying your right to freedom is being hampered by not being able to modify to your hearts content just won't cut it when there are laws protecting the rest of the country from your potential hazardous modifications.

This post has been edited by forkee: Aug 20, 2008 - 3:59 AM

[sawny]

sorry if its already said, but in the one of the cops said, if you showed paper work and proved none of the parts were stolen, you could get your car back with some fines?


and the only reason they crushed it was because they had parts that were stolen?

only? im sorry but if my car parts were found in any other person's car without my knowledge, id not only want to crush their car into itty bitty pieces but i would prolly tie the bastard to the inside of the car while its happening. There's no excuse of having someone else's engine with either no paperwork or receipts whatsoever or with the id number scratched beyond recognition. That just screams shady.

i know but lets say someone bought an engine, from some guy on craigslist and it turns out that it was stolen but you didnt know until your car gets crushed..i mean isnt that a little unfair?

[forkee]

hrm...well yea. im sure you would be protected. as long as you have proof that you paid for it and can say where you got it from. it takes a court order for your car to be crushed. the owner has tons of opportunities to show any type of documentation. thats why receipts is a must everytime you get parts from a junkyard, the internet, etc. when obtaining huge car parts. the court will be more forgiving if you get a part from a guy that has the same car as the part you bought from him rather than a guy that has a big truck with loose engines sitting in the back.

[playr158]

where I live



texas





random

[Taskbot]

Up in Canada we only have Crown Vics and Chargers

Also, Ontario is the Canadian equivalent to California when it comes to nazi street entiforcement. I've heard of people being pulled over for under hood checks. If you don't have the plaque on your engine or transmission, its considered stolen. If you're caught going 50km/h over the speed limit you are "Street racing" and your car is impounded or crushed. I've also heard about randomly pulling over ricer civics and ****.

On the subject of street racing:
I don't think its very wrong, Its dangerous but there's really nowhere else w can go. Everyone is trying to bust down on street racing but cars keep getting faster and safer, and they keep closing down more and more racetracks.

If governments want to bitch about street racing they should do the smart thing and open more racetracks instead of closing them down so that we have a place where we can go to get all of this out of our system or else they should expect more racing related deaths.

The only real track I think we have up here is Mo-sport and its a good 4 hours drive for me .

[Random_Stranger]

Up in Canada we only have Crown Vics and Chargers

Also, Ontario is the Canadian equivalent to California when it comes to nazi street entiforcement. I've heard of people being pulled over for under hood checks. If you don't have the plaque on your engine or transmission, its considered stolen. If you're caught going 50km/h over the speed limit you are "Street racing" and your car is impounded or crushed. I've also heard about randomly pulling over ricer civics and ****.

On the subject of street racing:
I don't think its very wrong, Its dangerous but there's really nowhere else w can go. Everyone is trying to bust down on street racing but cars keep getting faster and safer, and they keep closing down more and more racetracks.

If governments want to bitch about street racing they should do the smart thing and open more racetracks instead of closing them down so that we have a place where we can go to get all of this out of our system or else they should expect more racing related deaths.

The only real track I think we have up here is Mo-sport and its a good 4 hours drive for me .

See, I can understand that. But for us here in my city at least. WE have tracks. They may be 45 minutes away, but only $20 to race. Plus you can get a lot of people and bbq or something out there. Its fun. There is small events out there too. AND we are getting a drifting track closer to my city than the 45min drag strip. So for the residents here, there is no excuses. The cops are not too too bad here. But a few can be.

[97lestyousay]

The last time I was pulled over, the cop went right up front and was checking
the grille, I assume looking for an intercooler, he wrote me up for speeding,
(73 in a 65, I got tired of some DA riding in my blind spot so I sped up at exactly
the wrong time) he then informed me my exhaust is illegal. In the state of WA
you must have stock dia from front to rear.



I think it is total bs they spend that much on patrol cars, whats the point a radio is
still faster than a viper. I am not sure why the taxpayers in those areas put up with crap like that, I
would be totally pissed off if I was paying for sports cars for officer oinky.

[Random_Stranger]

The last time I was pulled over, the cop went right up front and was checking
the grille, I assume looking for an intercooler, he wrote me up for speeding,
(73 in a 65, I got tired of some DA riding in my blind spot so I sped up at exactly
the wrong time) he then informed me my exhaust is illegal. In the state of WA
you must have stock dia from front to rear.



I think it is total bs they spend that much on patrol cars, whats the point a radio is
still faster than a viper. I am not sure why the taxpayers in those areas put up with crap like that, I
would be totally pissed off if I was paying for sports cars for officer oinky.

Yeah we have camaro officers, charger officers, and I think I have seen one corvette officer here. It is total bs. I kind of get upset that they give us a hard time. Not like we can afford a dodge viper or mercedes mclaren. that's what they need to understand.

[elvasoshexai]

ontario is pretty bad... here is how we ended up with police impounding cars on the spot, suspending licenses on the spot all with a minimum $2000 and maximum $10,000 fine

head of toronto police always wanted a law like this to crack down on 'street racing'. initially, the bill was really to fight street racing, but it was rejected by congress.

then one night 2 young guys killed a cab driver. all the media wrote about how the 2 young guys were recklessly street racing and how the poor cab driver just immigrated here. basically the media made a sappy story for the cab driver and made the 2 young kids look like ruthless murderers. they were sentenced to house arrest and everyone was outraged.

that was when the bill really took off. the public was even all for it. and congress was going to pass the bill to fight REAL street racing..

then JUST before the bill passed, the toronto police head dude added the clause about how a cop can stop ppl for going 50 over and for other traffic infractions that have nothing to do with street racing... all w/o the public knowing... basically he wanted more power

then JUST after the bill was passed, new evidence surfaced about the tragic accident with the cab driver. turns out cab driver was drinking and did something wrong to cause the accident. all the 2 young guys were doing was speeding slightly...

can't help but think this was all staged so they coul get this law passed...

i believe they got so much revenue from this law that the toronto police was finally able to purchase a new plane to patrol the highways

i think these cases will finally be reaching the courts soon... hopefully they'll find it unconstitutional and make adjustments

oh, and instead of evos and stis... our police have a civic si... i guess that's gd.. rite? lol

This post has been edited by elvasoshexai: Aug 29, 2008 - 12:33 AM