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Sep 15, 2003 - 12:32 AM

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QUOTE (PhoenixDownVII @ Sep 13, 2003 - 10:16 PM)

QUOTE (7aek @ Sep 14, 2003 - 5:00 AM)

hm~~~ well~~~ r u really gonna put an rx7 next to a z06??? hello??? in stock form this cars are in different worlds. for all i know fd3s rx7 has 1.6 liter displacement? and to get it to hab 400+ hp that the z06 has u hab to go through a painstaking process and looooooooooooooots of money. sure rwd cars are very fun. but they aren't winter cars, which some ppl need. no matter what~~ it all boils down to money~~~ wif money u can do wutever u want. wanna make it go fast down the quarter??? bore the engine, add a turbo, swap it if u want. wanna make crazy drifts??? stiffen the suspension, get sticky tires, struts and sway bars. add a lil turbo if u'd like. but then again~~~ all boils down to money. u mite as well juss buy a lambo murcielago. hehehehe

Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about cars?

The z06 is rated at 405hp.

While the Rx7 is "Only" 275hp stock (In Japan), it is still a Japanese supercar...why? Well there's more to a car than what's written on paper about it...

To get its ***1.3*** litres of displacement to 350rwhp which would definitely outhandle and give the z06 a run for its money requires injectors, downpipe, and perhaps an ecu (FMIC?) or even a street port. Doesn't take a lot to make a stock turbo'd Rx7 to 300rwhp or so...which is a lot given its relative LIGHT-weight. And at the same time, it outhandles most other cars, what with the engine being pushed back to provide the best 50/50 MR-ish handling and all..

I think you shouldn't comment on that which you don't know.

As for what else you said, its all relevant (as others had said) but doesn't apply to the subject as to why some cars are rice and others aren't. It's simply because you make something out to what it isn't, and act/think/consider it a performance beast, when its not (ricer vehicles).

Yes, with Money you can buy anything, and make any car fast (Given, you rip the eco-cars apart and basically not make it anything like how it comes stock making it more of a hybrid/mutation than to actually hold that vehicle name/title)....but we already knew that....

well do U know ANYTHING ABOUT RX7'S??? i can see that u hab one, but i hope u know wut u got ur hands on.
about money and painstakin process i was makin reference to the extreme care the rx7's need. u wanna make an rx7 go fast for lil money do it. it wont last u long. those rotaries tend to overheat even wif a good FMIC. plus it's an engine dat wont hesitate to detonate. if u hab anydoubts go to the website of sportscompact magazine. they hab an rx7's project car. i wasnt even sayin rx7's are bad. i luv rx7's. fc3s or fd3s. and i cant wait to see the new one. so dun b comin out as a know it all ass. i was juss givin my opinion. and i dun comment dat which i dunno. im very well aware of the handlin capabilities of rx7's. for u information i've been intro driftin for the past 3 years. one more thing, i thought we were talkin about usdm not jdm rx7s.

btw i thought the renesis has a 1.3. the previous had 1.6 thanx for the correction if i was wrong.

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Sep 15, 2003 - 10:12 AM

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QUOTE (6gencelicasrule @ Sep 14, 2003 - 6:10 AM)

ok, this thread is talking about people who hate rice burners. not about how sports cars are so much greater than celicas.

i was talking about how much more reliable an import like a celica is compared to a sh*tty american car.

i would never ever say anything bad about a supra, Rx7, or any of those types of sports cars.

the point of all this is that yea a mustang or a firebird may be fast, but they will never be as efficient or last as long as "rice burners". so therefore they should not talk smack about them, even if they are slower than those american cars.

Okay, and I am simply asying people hate "ricers" (Rice Burners is so hick, its not even used that often anymore) is their infatuation with non-sports cars, and making them into something they're not. Thats why they get the GT wings used from real GT cars, the big exhausts meant for cars with BIG backpressure, and the ground effects to keep the light and fast supercars grounded....

Anyways, even all your arguements against "****ty american cars" is VERY ignorant. Sure, the mustang is cheap, and for a reason, but it doesn't mean all american cars can never see 200k. Besides, every car has wear and tear items, that need replacing, so some american cars need 1/2 things more...who cares? "With great power comes great responsibility". If you are going to ditch RWD and Turbo power for the sake of having to never check a vacuum hose and boost (which, to me, is fun....not *taxing* on my precious time) to drive a "Reliable" Fast car then so be it,..but you forfeit real power and speed for that "I don't have to change the oil at 3000 miles" comfort...which is just sillyness IMO.

Anyways, there is a lot of fun in big block displacement. SO what if it doesn't have a turbo or V-tec for higher RPMs....ever womp on a 7.8litre V8? The response at low RPM is wicked. I love big displacement, and that combined with a turbo for higher-RPM power is the best combo (Hmmm like some exotics boast).

But alas, we don't alll have the time, money, and availability to "have it all"...so its cool that there are Supra's, Celica's, Rx7's...etc for us to play with

Just stop making generalizations to be a fact.

Sep 15, 2003 - 10:21 AM

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QUOTE (7aek @ Sep 15, 2003 - 5:32 AM)

well do U know ANYTHING ABOUT RX7'S??? i can see that u hab one, but i hope u know wut u got ur hands on.
about money and painstakin process i was makin reference to the extreme care the rx7's need. u wanna make an rx7 go fast for lil money do it. it wont last u long. those rotaries tend to overheat even wif a good FMIC. plus it's an engine dat wont hesitate to detonate. if u hab anydoubts go to the website of sportscompact magazine. they hab an rx7's project car. i wasnt even sayin rx7's are bad. i luv rx7's. fc3s or fd3s. and i cant wait to see the new one. so dun b comin out as a know it all ass. i was juss givin my opinion. and i dun comment dat which i dunno. im very well aware of the handlin capabilities of rx7's. for u information i've been intro driftin for the past 3 years. one more thing, i thought we were talkin about usdm not jdm rx7s.

btw i thought the renesis has a 1.3. the previous had 1.6 thanx for the correction if i was wrong.

Do you know anything about English? "English Mother****er, do you speak it!"? LOL

Seriously, its hard to read your gibberish.

But, alas, again you are talking to me about the "horror" stories that haunt the Rx7 "Realm of Scariness."

Yes, I do know a lot more than you think and judging by what you've said you are in no position to tell me I don't know Jack about Rx7's.

I wasn't coming out as a "know it all ass." In fact, someone else simply stated mis-information about Rx7's and I was correcting him based on my first-hand information and research of over a year now....so you can calm it.

LOL simply your comment about knowing how they handle and combining that with Drifting (which is not great handling, just something fun to do with well balanced RWD cars) further downplays any validity you have in this arguement. Read: Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

And FYI, I was talkin about Rx7's, which exist here and in Japan, so all of them...duh.

1.3 is the displacement of the 13B engine (Wow, 13 and 1.3 what a concept!) which is in the 3rd Gen Rx7.

20b's come from a different mazda, and 4rotor's are in the 787B supermachine! WOot!

Sep 22, 2003 - 10:42 PM

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QUOTE (PhoenixDownVII @ Sep 15, 2003 - 8:12 AM)

QUOTE (6gencelicasrule @ Sep 14, 2003 - 6:10 AM)

ok, this thread is talking about people who hate rice burners. not about how sports cars are so much greater than celicas.

i was talking about how much more reliable an import like a celica is compared to a sh*tty american car.

i would never ever say anything bad about a supra, Rx7, or any of those types of sports cars.

the point of all this is that yea a mustang or a firebird may be fast, but they will never be as efficient or last as long as "rice burners". so therefore they should not talk smack about them, even if they are slower than those american cars.

Okay, and I am simply asying people hate "ricers" (Rice Burners is so hick, its not even used that often anymore) is their infatuation with non-sports cars, and making them into something they're not. Thats why they get the GT wings used from real GT cars, the big exhausts meant for cars with BIG backpressure, and the ground effects to keep the light and fast supercars grounded....

Anyways, even all your arguements against "****ty american cars" is VERY ignorant. Sure, the mustang is cheap, and for a reason, but it doesn't mean all american cars can never see 200k. Besides, every car has wear and tear items, that need replacing, so some american cars need 1/2 things more...who cares? "With great power comes great responsibility". If you are going to ditch RWD and Turbo power for the sake of having to never check a vacuum hose and boost (which, to me, is fun....not *taxing* on my precious time) to drive a "Reliable" Fast car then so be it,..but you forfeit real power and speed for that "I don't have to change the oil at 3000 miles" comfort...which is just sillyness IMO.

Anyways, there is a lot of fun in big block displacement. SO what if it doesn't have a turbo or V-tec for higher RPMs....ever womp on a 7.8litre V8? The response at low RPM is wicked. I love big displacement, and that combined with a turbo for higher-RPM power is the best combo (Hmmm like some exotics boast).

But alas, we don't alll have the time, money, and availability to "have it all"...so its cool that there are Supra's, Celica's, Rx7's...etc for us to play with

Just stop making generalizations to be a fact.

yea, i realized that the reason mustangs for example are cheap is because they are less reliable. when i said "****ty american cars" i meant as in cheaply made. i know they are a hell of a lot faster than a lot of import cars...............but not all

Sep 23, 2003 - 12:49 AM
boosted_K2 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	mustangs arent cheap because they arent reliable. mustangs, like anyother car can be just as reliable in the right hands with the right maintanence. a guy i know puts about (no joke) 12K miles on his 5.0 mustang every 2-3 weeks, he has over 250K miles on it, and the only problem hes had over the last year besides regular maintanence was a tie rod end cracked, that was it. and the reason they are cheap is because the over abundance of them that has been and being manufactured has brought the price WAYYY down, its like anything else, the more bulk you create, the cheaper you can sell them. same goes for resell value, if your car is identical to a bunch of others out there, then you need to make the price more enticing so someone will want to buy yours over the next guys. which is the same reason DSMs are so cheap, and Supras hold their value so well. -------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial

Sep 23, 2003 - 1:36 AM
Cody View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	It's a budget car. It's one of those few cars that you don't have to special order to buy. You can just go down to the lot and they have like 12 of them sitting there.

Sep 23, 2003 - 1:46 AM

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QUOTE (Cody @ Sep 23, 2003 - 1:36 AM)

It's a budget car. It's one of those few cars that you don't have to special order to buy. You can just go down to the lot and they have like 12 of them sitting there.

hahaha yepp exactly, and you wanna know why there are so many V-6 mustangs with low miles sitting on used car lots? because they were used as Budget Rental cars lmao.

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Sep 23, 2003 - 1:50 AM
Cody View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	lol...thats so great

Oct 27, 2003 - 11:51 PM
CelicaStud View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jul 15, '03 From Sperry, Oklahoma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Muscle v. import, I'm in the middle. You show me a modified 3000GT (which I hate to say I would take over a Supra) and I'll crap my pants for you. You show me a early 60's modle Chevy Nova with a blown 502, and I'll crap my pants once more. I love cars. Period. End of story. Thank you, have a nice day. That's it.

Oct 27, 2003 - 11:55 PM
Cody View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Well, it's not people like you that we have problems with. You have respect for both sides. This post has been edited by Cody: Oct 27, 2003 - 11:55 PM

Oct 28, 2003 - 12:10 AM
PlanetFuzz View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '03 From Knoxville,TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	I think idiots like that see gay hondas everywhere and then when they see a small import they instantly think....ricer!!!!

Oct 28, 2003 - 12:32 AM

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QUOTE (PlanetFuzz @ Oct 27, 2003 - 10:10 PM)

I think idiots like that see gay hondas everywhere and then when they see a small import they instantly think....ricer!!!!

www.ricecop.com

Oct 29, 2003 - 2:28 PM
FAQdaWorld View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Personally, I really love cars too. Not just performance... but looks... I think the looks of many imports are awesome... i love those curves (just like how i like them on my girlies). I personally hate the way a mustang LOOKS. The older mustangs i actually like... Iono.... The Mustang just seems very played out to me. Part of what lured me to my celica was how beautiful they can be. Seriously, reminded me of a supra. I havent been able to look at any domestic cars lately and be able to say, that car looks nice. Iono, maybe i'm just rambling... -Ryan -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld

Oct 29, 2003 - 2:57 PM
Cody View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	No, you're right, domestic car's styling are very boring compared to foreign.

Oct 29, 2003 - 4:11 PM
Silver94CelicaOw... Silver94CelicaOwner View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%)	Its all in how you were raised i suppose. Me, i look at the car regardless of what it is, but i definately prefer an import car to just about any domestic out there due to nicer styling and refinement. But i think that anybody who is a car enthusiast should have respect for cars from any market. -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.

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