The black president?!, no Obama ain't the first one |
The black president?!, no Obama ain't the first one |
Nov 6, 2008 - 9:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE Actually, Bi-Racial.... I dont view Obama as black, and this country would be better off if we just stopped putting everyone in only two categories: Black/White.
Would Obama get the label as a black man if he developed Vitiligo? That being said... Time will tell what he can do for this country... I didnt vote for him, but lets see.... Ever since the nation first met Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, his race has been called into question more times than Michael Jackson's. Obama is clearly a black man, but is this really a breakthrough? Some blacks say Obama isn't "black enough," which seems ironic because for many blacks, former President Bill Clinton was "black enough." In 2001, Clinton was honored as the nation's "first black president" at the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Annual Awards Dinner in Washington, D.C. Were there other "black" presidents? Some historians have reason to believe people don't really understand the genealogy of past U.S. Presidents. Research shows at least five U.S. presidents had black ancestors and Thomas Jefferson, the nation's third president, was considered the first black president, according to historian Leroy Vaughn, author of Black People and Their Place in World History. Vaughn's research shows Jefferson was not the only former black U.S. president. Who were the others? Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. But why was this unknown? How were they elected president? All five of these presidents never acknowledged their black ancestry. Jefferson, who served two terms between 1801 and 1809, was described as the "son of a half-breed Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto father," as stated in Vaughn's findings. Jefferson also was said to have destroyed all documentation attached to his mother, even going to extremes to seize letters written by his mother to other people. President Andrew Jackson, the nation's seventh president, was in office between 1829 and 1837. Vaughn cites an article written in The Virginia Magazine of History that Jackson was the son of an Irish woman who married a black man. The magazine also stated that Jackson's oldest brother had been sold as a slave. Lincoln, the nation's 16th president, served between 1861 and 1865. Lincoln was said to have been the illegitimate son of an African man, according to Leroy's findings. Lincoln had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed "Abraham Africanus the First" by his opponents. President Warren Harding, the 29th president, in office between 1921 and 1923, apparently never denied his ancestry. According to Vaughn, William Chancellor, a professor of economics and politics at Wooster College in Ohio, wrote a book on the Harding family genealogy. Evidently, Harding had black ancestors between both sets of parents. Chancellor also said that Harding attended Iberia College, a school founded to educate fugitive slaves. Coolidge, the nation's 30th president, served between 1923 and 1929 and supposedly was proud of his heritage. He claimed his mother was dark because of mixed Indian ancestry. Coolidge's mother's maiden name was "Moor" and in Europe the name "Moor" was given to all blacks just as "Negro" was used in America. It later was concluded that Coolidge was part black. The only difference between Obama and these former presidents is that none of their family histories were fully acknowledged by others. Even though Obama is half-white, he strongly resembles his Kenyan father. And not only is Obama open about his ancestry, most people acknowledge him as a black man, which is why people will identify Obama, if elected, as the first black president of the United States. __________________ This post has been edited by playr158: Nov 6, 2008 - 9:06 AM |
Nov 6, 2008 - 9:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Thank you for this playr.
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Nov 6, 2008 - 9:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different.
Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary. This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 6, 2008 - 9:23 AM -------------------- |
Nov 6, 2008 - 9:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different. Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary. I think this is more so intended to be a "fun-fact" of sorts supersprynt. I agree with you that it shouldn't matter where a person comes from, or what their ancestry is. Farthermore, i also believe this is getting blown way out of proportion. Perhaps we should all stop the political debates for a bit; and get back to what matters the most. -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 9:34 AM |
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well said ^
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Nov 6, 2008 - 9:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Alright.
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Nov 6, 2008 - 9:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Perhaps we should all stop the political debates for a bit; and get back to what matters the most. Alright. witch one should i use today? -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 10:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
the vibrating one > all
multipurpose tools FTW |
Nov 6, 2008 - 10:18 AM |
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It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different. Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary. fine fine guys i will say that i will become the first asian president alright NOW that will be evolutionary!!! now done and over with with this political stuff..... we all fight together in wars, we all live among each other, there was ages in this world where bad things happen, but alot of good things has happen too..so now we have the first black president just wounder what we would be talking about if hillary cliton made it..same damn thing...but yeah ill be the first asian president and then thats when well have a hugh corn nuts eatin debate about it.... -------------------- |
Nov 6, 2008 - 10:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
the vibrating one > all multipurpose tools FTW It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different. Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary. fine fine guys i will say that i will become the first asian president alright NOW that will be evolutionary!!! now done and over with with this political stuff..... we all fight together in wars, we all live among each other, there was ages in this world where bad things happen, but alot of good things has happen too..so now we have the first black president just wounder what we would be talking about if hillary cliton made it..same damn thing...but yeah ill be the first asian president and then thats when well have a hugh corn nuts eatin debate about it.... Ya'll like my pink hat? This post has been edited by D-Man: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:35 AM -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 10:58 AM |
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People really need to get over it already.
Gay is the new black in this country now. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Nov 6, 2008 - 11:04 AM |
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Nov 6, 2008 - 11:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Atheist is the new gay.
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Nov 6, 2008 - 11:22 AM |
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-------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 11:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
If the day ever comes - transvestites? IDK
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Nov 6, 2008 - 11:59 AM |
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Ya'll like my pink hat? are you ****ing kidding me This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Nov 6, 2008 - 12:00 PM -------------------- BANNED. for life, you moron.
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Nov 6, 2008 - 12:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
are you ****ing kidding me Yes i am. That's not really me.
-------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 12:09 PM |
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Nov 6, 2008 - 12:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
are you ****ing kidding me Yes i am. I'm not really smart fixed FAILURE playr. failure. -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
Nov 6, 2008 - 12:24 PM |
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People really need to get over it already. Gay is the new black in this country now. Wow, apparently I'm WAY out of the loop. Does this mean I have to come out all over again? It sucked enough the first time around, I don't wanna have to go through all that sh1t again, I'm just too old for it -------------------- |
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