GOOOO OBAMA!!, IM SO PROUD! Options

[D-Man]

Congress is democrat controlled, not as much will get shot down. Hopefully bad ideas will get shot down but who knows.

If I had it my way your religion, what you do at home and what you do with your own body are nobody's business but your own. You don't have the right to tell someone what they can and cannot do to their own body just as nobody has the right to tell you what you can and cannot believe. Everyone needs to live their own lives and not worry about what other people are doing with theirs.

BTW: This isn't directed to anybody just a general statement.

I couldn't have said it better without copy & pasting it. Damn well said Sprynt!!

I hope you win the lottary for stating this

[slow_yota]

thats all fine except that abortion is murder, Anyway you cut it.

Killing someone is a crime and sin.

...thats not an opinion.

End of story.

[95CelicaST]

Or Canada.


And again, abortion isn't anyone else's business but the mothers. If you think it's a crime, then you might also think that putting down a cat or dog is a crime and a sin, because it's killing a living being. The government is sticking it's nose in other people's business and it's time that was brought to an end. It's mixing church and state, not to mention oppressing a woman's right to choose.

[jesterwr217]

haha jester this can go on for dayssss,but last time i check obama is the elected president so your gonna have to deal with it or pack your bags for cuba

at this point i wouldnt mind but cuba wouldnt be the destination
its funny how he only got elected 2 days ago and the democratic party is already saying they arent going to be able to accomplish the goals they promissed haha retartds

Or Canada.


And again, abortion isn't anyone else's business but the mothers. If you think it's a crime, then you might also think that putting down a cat or dog is a crime and a sin, because it's killing a living being. The government is sticking it's nose in other people's business and it's time that was brought to an end. It's mixing church and state, not to mention oppressing a woman's right to choose.

and no if your religious it is a sin
as far as the animals go read the bible animals were put on earth for the consumption of man no matter how domesticated they are
and sorry thats not a good excuse if you arent responsible enough to have a kid DONT F***!

[easternpiro1]

thats all fine except that abortion is murder, Anyway you cut it.

Killing someone is a crime and sin.

...thats not an opinion.

End of story.

i agree with you yota... and i belive in the true andliving god as well... BUT... UNLESS you will be holding the book of life and judging/dealing with the people personally... well uh.... well you wont. leave it to god and them. not our job.

[slow_yota]

Im not judging...Just look at this way.
if you kill someone...Is it or is it not a crime ?
doesnt matter if you made the kid or not..
Give it up for adoption.

Easternpiro1:
My wife was an almost abortion..her mom kept her and then gave her up for adoption.
So i'm very strong on this topic...I wont move on this one.
I wouldt have the life & happiness i do if she did give her up.

I dont care if he's black ..Like i said.

But..............

legally if you have one drop of black blood in you, You're considered black.

All in all......

I hope things get better..I mean, Can it really get that much worse ??

"Its always darkest before the dawn"

Nice avatar btw jester ;]

[jesterwr217]

Im not judging...Just look at this way.
if you kill someone...Is it or is it not a crime ?
doesnt matter if you made the kid or not..
Give it up for adoption.

Easternpiro1:
My wife was an almost abortion..her mom kept her and then gave her up for adoption.
So i'm very strong on this topic...I wont move on this one.
I wouldt have the life & happiness i do if she did give her up.

I dont care if he's black ..Like i said.

But..............

legally if you have one drop of black blood in you, You're considered black.

All in all......

I hope things get better..I mean, Can it really get that much worse ??

"Its always darkest before the dawn"

Nice avatar btw jester ;]

haha i couldnt resist
but yota your exactly right if you cant take care of the kid or dont want the kid dont kill it give it to someone who cant have a kid that would be more than willing to jump at the chance to take them home and give them a life
i myself was almost aborted
you talk to my parents now 22 years later and both of them will tell you that would have been the biggest mistake of their lives

[easternpiro1]

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:07 PM

[slow_yota]

Its cool, I understand.
I just dont comprehend how anyone..Not saying you, But
anyone can kill their own child living inside them.
Whether you are religious or not...
I can't see anyone not seeing this as a sin...Let alone a crime.
That was my point..just that its just so wrong to do.
If it was a mistake..be an adult and take responsilbility.

****My name is Ricky ****....Not yota, fyi =]

This post has been edited by slow_yota: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:10 PM

[easternpiro1]

Its cool, I understand.
I just dont comprehend how anyone..Not saying you, But
anyone can kill their own child living inside them.
Wheather you are religious or not...
I can't see anyone not seeing this as a sin...Let alone a crime.
That was my point..just that its just so wrong to do.
If it was a mistake..be an adult and take responsilbility.

****My name is Ricky ****....Not yota, fyi =]

x2.

ive been in the same situation 2x, i used to be for abortion unitl somebody got one and never told me. (yeah she was a jumpoff, but she could have called me!) and the other time i was young and dumb. i regret it to this day, didnt really want to in the first place, but it was HER choice. i just dont want to judge anyone because all i can do is pray for them.

sorry ricky

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:12 PM

[jesterwr217]

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

i never said you said anyone was racist i figured if party bashing by pictures was going on it should be done for both sides cause if not then this thread would be unfair and THEN deserve to be closed and that picture has to do with racism not the civill rights movement from the 60's and 70's your refering to
why not respond its his words his beliefs we should just ignore it because you dont like it??
and as for not responding again i got tired of arguing with you people with noone even attepmting to back me up but since people with the same views as me have finally found this thread i figured id jump back in the action

and if you dont like what i have to say dont respond to it

[slow_yota]

Ok..Im glad we agree on that one easternpiro, I mean...We're smart enough to buy toyota's...lol
So we can't be all that bad..Right ?
And.....
Maybe im a bit bias...but i think jester has a good head on his shoulders. =]

lol..Its cool.
Just from all the selling i am/was doing..I'm on
a first name basis with alot of the guys on here. ;]

This post has been edited by slow_yota: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:25 PM

[easternpiro1]

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

i never said you said anyone was racist i figured if party bashing by pictures was going on it should be done for both sides cause if not then this thread would be unfair and THEN deserve to be closed and that picture has to do with racism not the civill rights movement from the 60's and 70's your refering to
why not respond its his words his beliefs we should just ignore it because you dont like it??
and as for not responding again i got tired of arguing with you people with noone even attepmting to back me up but since people with the same views as me have finally found this thread i figured id jump back in the action

and if you dont like what i have to say dont respond to it

youre worse than fox news. WHAT PICTURE DID I POST THAT BASHED A PARTY!

so what youre tyring to do is justify what happened in teh pictures? or counter it? THERE IS NO COUNTER TO THOSE EVENTS. THEY WERE WRONG. END OF STORY.

WOW.... amazing the picture has nothing to do with civil rights movement.... . im sorry. those pictures DID TAKE PLACE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. and YES YOURE RIGHT. it has to do with racisim... initiated by a government that thought certain people (including women) were not equal to others. I AM GRATEFUL to those that got bit, beaten, or hosed down so that i can vote for the man that is currently in office. THATS why i put that picture up.

or you dont think that happened either huh?

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

lol

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 6, 2008 - 11:40 PM

[jesterwr217]

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

he hasnt even taken office yet and his own people are saying how they arent going to be able to do the things they promised during thier campaign so yes i do have an argument against a president who hasn't even taken office yet

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

i never said you said anyone was racist i figured if party bashing by pictures was going on it should be done for both sides cause if not then this thread would be unfair and THEN deserve to be closed and that picture has to do with racism not the civill rights movement from the 60's and 70's your refering to
why not respond its his words his beliefs we should just ignore it because you dont like it??
and as for not responding again i got tired of arguing with you people with noone even attepmting to back me up but since people with the same views as me have finally found this thread i figured id jump back in the action

and if you dont like what i have to say dont respond to it

youre worse than fox news. WHAT PICTURE DID I POST THAT BASHED A PARTY!

so what youre tyring to do is justify what happened in teh pictures? or counter it? THERE IS NO COUNTER TO THOSE EVENTS. THEY WERE WRONG. END OF STORY.

WOW.... amazing the picture has nothing to do with civil rights movement.... YOU SIR ARE A DUMBASS. im sorry. those pictures DID TAKE PLACE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. and YES YOURE RIGHT. it has to do with racisim... initiated by a government that thought certain people (including women) were not equal to others. I AM GRATEFUL to those that got bit, beaten, or hosed down so that i can vote for the man that is currently in office. THATS why i put that picture up.

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

lol

haha all news is "bad" cnn is liberal and fox is conservative everyone knows that
once again I NEVER SAID YOU POSTED THOSE PICTURES YOU STARTED RANTING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED
and no the photoshoped image of ombama's campaign poster with racist on it IS NOT FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT so pay attention to what im talking about before you start with calling me a dumbass
congradulations on the right to vote as you should be able to like any other american citizen
however slavery was around much longer than this country so no the american government did not INITIATE this act however wrong it was
it was brought to america

[CelicaST_CALI]

what did he say...?

haha found my new sig

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Nov 6, 2008 - 11:29 PM

[easternpiro1]

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

he hasnt even taken office yet and his own people are saying how they arent going to be able to do the things they promised during thier campaign so yes i do have an argument against a president who hasn't even taken office yet

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

i never said you said anyone was racist i figured if party bashing by pictures was going on it should be done for both sides cause if not then this thread would be unfair and THEN deserve to be closed and that picture has to do with racism not the civill rights movement from the 60's and 70's your refering to
why not respond its his words his beliefs we should just ignore it because you dont like it??
and as for not responding again i got tired of arguing with you people with noone even attepmting to back me up but since people with the same views as me have finally found this thread i figured id jump back in the action

and if you dont like what i have to say dont respond to it

youre worse than fox news. WHAT PICTURE DID I POST THAT BASHED A PARTY!

so what youre tyring to do is justify what happened in teh pictures? or counter it? THERE IS NO COUNTER TO THOSE EVENTS. THEY WERE WRONG. END OF STORY.

WOW.... amazing the picture has nothing to do with civil rights movement.... . . those pictures DID TAKE PLACE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. and YES YOURE RIGHT. it has to do with racisim... initiated by a government that thought certain people (including women) were not equal to others. I AM GRATEFUL to those that got bit, beaten, or hosed down so that i can vote for the man that is currently in office. THATS why i put that picture up.

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

lol

haha all news is "bad" cnn is liberal and fox is conservative everyone knows that
once again I NEVER SAID YOU POSTED THOSE PICTURES YOU STARTED RANTING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED
and no the photoshoped image of ombama's campaign poster with racist on it IS NOT FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT so pay attention to what im talking about before you start with calling me a dumbass
congradulations on the right to vote as you should be able to like any other american citizen
however slavery was around much longer than this country so no the american government did not INITIATE this act however wrong it was
it was brought to america

oh im sorry
uh... you just contradicted yourself.

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 6, 2008 - 11:41 PM

[jesterwr217]

It's not even worth responding to this stuff. It's not debatable. It's just uneducated slander.

Some people just embarrass the rest of Americans. Redneck hicks who don't like someone because of the color of their skin or by the money they make. People who adhere to the bible more than humanity, people who just think it's their way or the highway.

This thread will be locked because of worthless posts like those and it's a shame that everyone has to suffer because of the few who have no class.

so let me ask you this then what makes your view any different?
ive yet to call a single person a name but i get called a redneck hick a dumbass my religious beliefs are being mocked etc etc
i havent generalized a group of people just one person
barack obama
so until he says hey stop your offending me i should be able to speak my mind about him in a forum about him

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

he hasnt even taken office yet and his own people are saying how they arent going to be able to do the things they promised during thier campaign so yes i do have an argument against a president who hasn't even taken office yet

first of all yota.... im not trying to move you or sway you on any opinion of abortion. i simply said if its not you thats going to be doing the judging. pray for the person instead.

jester....
but how IN THE WORLD does pictures of the civil rights movement have to do with you "leveling the playing field" by showing pictures of obama with racist under it? (that post alone tells ALOT about you buddy) i NEVER in any of my statements IMPLIED that ANYONE was racist. someone asked me why blacks were so overwhelmingly voting for obama, and that was my answer. by your statement, you may have been suggestig that i was referring to someone a racist. if this is your assumption, how do you get that impression?

and didnt you say this thread was useless and would no longer post? are we sore or something? jeez.

and im not even going to address your last quote in bold... nice try though

and what "law" are you referring to yota? is there some sort of club or organization that has that law that i dont know about?

i never said you said anyone was racist i figured if party bashing by pictures was going on it should be done for both sides cause if not then this thread would be unfair and THEN deserve to be closed and that picture has to do with racism not the civill rights movement from the 60's and 70's your refering to
why not respond its his words his beliefs we should just ignore it because you dont like it??
and as for not responding again i got tired of arguing with you people with noone even attepmting to back me up but since people with the same views as me have finally found this thread i figured id jump back in the action

and if you dont like what i have to say dont respond to it

youre worse than fox news. WHAT PICTURE DID I POST THAT BASHED A PARTY!

so what youre tyring to do is justify what happened in teh pictures? or counter it? THERE IS NO COUNTER TO THOSE EVENTS. THEY WERE WRONG. END OF STORY.

WOW.... amazing the picture has nothing to do with civil rights movement.... YOU SIR ARE A DUMBASS. im sorry. those pictures DID TAKE PLACE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. and YES YOURE RIGHT. it has to do with racisim... initiated by a government that thought certain people (including women) were not equal to others. I AM GRATEFUL to those that got bit, beaten, or hosed down so that i can vote for the man that is currently in office. THATS why i put that picture up.

You mean you hear it often because you quarrel like a child often? This does not surprise me.

And if your already complaining about a President who hasn't taken office, you're not helping your case in the education department.

lol

haha all news is "bad" cnn is liberal and fox is conservative everyone knows that
once again I NEVER SAID YOU POSTED THOSE PICTURES YOU STARTED RANTING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED
and no the photoshoped image of ombama's campaign poster with racist on it IS NOT FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT so pay attention to what im talking about before you start with calling me a dumbass
congradulations on the right to vote as you should be able to like any other american citizen
however slavery was around much longer than this country so no the american government did not INITIATE this act however wrong it was
it was brought to america

oh im sorry jackass...

uh... you just contradicted yourself.

uh no that poster was made a couple weeks ago like i was talking about ... watch the name calling or this will get locked

Bush's campaign promises haven't all been fulfilled in 8 years. If you're going to complain maybe you should start with the current president before you start attacking a president who hasn't even had a chance yet.

bush also only had a few months before 9/11 that changed everything

[easternpiro1]

youre right. im sorry. that was immature. wow.... im way above that. anywho.

IBTL.

[CelicaST_CALI]

BUSH IS LEAVING,THERE IS A GOD!!!!

[jesterwr217]

BUSH IS LEAVING,THERE IS A GOD!!!!

lol at least one person isnt pissed enough to not have a sense of humor

This post has been edited by jesterwr217: Nov 6, 2008 - 11:54 PM