Jason Bourne vs James Bond ?, Movie talk Options

[bseaman_5]

bourne would win

[GriffGirl]

Hand to hand combat - Bourne.

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[macavely]

Speaking from the perspective of the Bourne books (the movie plotlines more or less only covered about half of the first book and ignored the whole basis of the "identity" issue)....

Bourne was an identity taken on by a man who was a highly trained diplomat (spoke French and a few dialects related to Vietnamese), who lost his family to a random bombing and due to the emotional trauma turned himself into a commando in a very black, behind-the-line unit in Vietnam. He was a guerilla, described by his men as a killing machine in the jungles, but his greatest skill was his chameleon-like ability in terms of both being invisible, and being taken for someone he was not. The purpose of taking on the identity of Jason Bourne was to challenge the world's greatest assassin of the time, and in so doing draw Carlos out to where he could be taken in -- or taken out.

Bond would set a trap. Bourne would be able to beat that trap, by virtue of his background. Or to put it another way, you'd see Bond coming. Delta's prey never saw him.

I have read (not sure how true it is at this point) but there is talk about a 4th move, the Webb Identity, where they go detail on how David Webb becomes Jason Bourne. It would be a prequel, I hope this does come to be. In the Last movie they did touch on how he was basicaly brain washed to be a killing machine.

[RickJamesBish]

Hand to hand combat - Bourne.

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[Galcobar]

If there's a fourth movie, it'd be a complete trashing of the whole point of the Bourne identity crisis.

Ludlum's original design was believable and understandable; the reason the amnesiac didn't like who Jason Bourne seemed to be was because the amnesiac didn't know Jason Bourne was a cover identity; actually, Ludlum set the crisis up as sort of a three-phase design.

Phase 1: dedicated family man and diplomat, David Webb
Phase 2: trauma of seeing his family killed by unknown fighter plane pushes him to seek revenge, resulting in deadly commando, Delta
Phase 3: Delta, lacking purpose with the war over, agrees to join a U.S. government operation -- Treadstone -- to pose as an up-and-coming assassin, using the name Jason Bourne (Bourne was actually a man Delta had executed during Vietnam)

The books take place after the memory loss, which includes forgetting the emotional trauma of losing his family -- so you end up with the persona of David Webb trying to navigate in the made-up identity of Jason Bourne.

The first book was great, the latter two not as good. I'm very wary of a fourth, which Universal has announced. The major issue I saw with the movies were just how dumbed-down they became, literally in the case of Marie. She went from a high-ranking economist within the Canadian government whose approval was sought by banks worldwide and who helped regulate world financial markets to a flower-child who didn't know how to duck.

[Random_Stranger]

Who would win in a fight? Rico Suave or John Secada?

C'mon........ Please.



Oh! I got one! Who would win in a fight? Don Knotts (3's company days) or Christopher Walken (Now)? Ppffftt lol

[Galcobar]

Is anyone really willing to get into a fight with Christopher Walken? If there's a face that'd make me lose my nerve...

[RickJamesBish]

Christopher Reeve vs. that handicapped smart guy on Family Guy.

[mad4toy]

bourne for sure

[Supersprynt]

If there's a fourth movie, it'd be a complete trashing of the whole point of the Bourne identity crisis.

Ludlum's original design was believable and understandable; the reason the amnesiac didn't like who Jason Bourne seemed to be was because the amnesiac didn't know Jason Bourne was a cover identity; actually, Ludlum set the crisis up as sort of a three-phase design.

Phase 1: dedicated family man and diplomat, David Webb
Phase 2: trauma of seeing his family killed by unknown fighter plane pushes him to seek revenge, resulting in deadly commando, Delta
Phase 3: Delta, lacking purpose with the war over, agrees to join a U.S. government operation -- Treadstone -- to pose as an up-and-coming assassin, using the name Jason Bourne (Bourne was actually a man Delta had executed during Vietnam)

The books take place after the memory loss, which includes forgetting the emotional trauma of losing his family -- so you end up with the persona of David Webb trying to navigate in the made-up identity of Jason Bourne.

The first book was great, the latter two not as good. I'm very wary of a fourth, which Universal has announced. The major issue I saw with the movies were just how dumbed-down they became, literally in the case of Marie. She went from a high-ranking economist within the Canadian government whose approval was sought by banks worldwide and who helped regulate world financial markets to a flower-child who didn't know how to duck.

The only thing the movies have to do with the books is the title. So by making a fourth movie (which there will be) won't do anything to the point of the books because they are so far from what the books were.

http://screenrant.com/bourne-4-writer-filmnerdjamie-3982/