which swap??? |
which swap??? |
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok i got a stock 94 celica with a 7afe engine its weak really weak and old runnin about 236000 miles so i wanna do a swap but i dont know which one would be best i have researched alot and thought about the diffrant options but out of 3sgte and the 4agze or 7age with little money and not too much experiance wat would be the best and cheapest/ easiest swap for me
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Nov 18, 2008 - 12:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
cheapest and easiest, swap in another 7afe. No need to worry about the wire harness and its cheap.
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Nov 18, 2008 - 12:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
By far the best bang for your buck for an ST: 4AGE Blacktop.
-Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Nov 18, 2008 - 6:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i would go with another 7afe but i thought about if i turboed it and the rods are very weak and thin but i have done alot of thinking about the 4age but the blacktop is a 20valve right? why a 20 valve over a 16 valve?? would it require more work??
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Nov 18, 2008 - 6:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
It's not any more work than a 16v to swap it, it just makes more power
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Nov 18, 2008 - 7:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hmm sounds good to me so how much mods. am i lookin forwards too for this swap??
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Nov 18, 2008 - 7:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 28, '07 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
depends...look on ebay..
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Nov 18, 2008 - 10:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok thanks for the help
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Nov 18, 2008 - 10:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 8, '06 From Jersey sHore PA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
put a twin charged 4agze in it
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Nov 18, 2008 - 10:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
that would be sweet but dont you have to fabricate the 2nd supercharger or do they make twin charged 4agzes???
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Nov 18, 2008 - 10:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 1, '08 From STL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i am in the exact same boat as this guy except i know nothing about engine swaps lol
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Nov 18, 2008 - 11:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 6, '08 From charleston, sc Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how hard is it to do a 4A swap in our cars?
engine mounts? do i need to modify them? and will my 7A tranny mount to it? -------------------- myspace!!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 12:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well i have researched and ive seen that all "a" trannys will mate right with all "A" motors but the motor mounts im not too sure ive probly read it but dont remember.. but i need to know wat the easiest way to program the ecu should i get the 4age ecu mated with my wiring harness or should i get a megasquirt?? or get my stock ecu reprogrammed??
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Nov 19, 2008 - 7:38 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 1, '08 From STL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
im pretty sure 'A' engines mount no problem
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Nov 19, 2008 - 9:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeah well that works out i think im going to go with the 4age blacktop and turbo it but the thing is i herd hat the 4agze motors came with a 6 speed tranny and i have an automatic how hard would it be to drop a 6 speed maual into my car??
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Nov 19, 2008 - 10:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 6, '08 From charleston, sc Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im thinking about swapping the tranny from auto to manual, so maybe once i get the money ill go up to there to the jdm guy lol
and have him swap my auto to manual, bc the 4A i found came w/ a 5sp soooo ill keep the tranny and use my auto 1 until i get the $$$ and parts -------------------- myspace!!
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Nov 19, 2008 - 1:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 6, '08 From charleston, sc Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
is a 4a swap a rwd swap?
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Nov 19, 2008 - 4:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
from wat i rad it can be either but i do know that u have to get a fwd tranny of coarse but yeah i have seen fwd and rwd 4ages
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Nov 19, 2008 - 4:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
that would be sweet but dont you have to fabricate the 2nd supercharger or do they make twin charged 4agzes??? You would add a custom turbo system to the 4AGZE which is already supercharged. I don't recommend it though. Here are some pics of it actually being done: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/brandon.html how hard is it to do a 4A swap in our cars? engine mounts? do i need to modify them? and will my 7A tranny mount to it? It swaps right in using either transmission, and use your stock axles. You will need custom wiring, a/c lines, p/s lines, and a little exhaust and intake work. well i have researched and ive seen that all "a" trannys will mate right with all "A" motors but the motor mounts im not too sure ive probly read it but dont remember.. but i need to know wat the easiest way to program the ecu should i get the 4age ecu mated with my wiring harness or should i get a megasquirt?? or get my stock ecu reprogrammed?? Just have the wiring converted: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/ yeah well that works out i think im going to go with the 4age blacktop and turbo it but the thing is i herd hat the 4agze motors came with a 6 speed tranny and i have an automatic how hard would it be to drop a 6 speed maual into my car?? The 6-speed from the 4AGE 20v blacktop should bolt right in like any other 4AGE. from wat i rad it can be either but i do know that u have to get a fwd tranny of coarse but yeah i have seen fwd and rwd 4ages In the Celica it's FWD. It can be swapped into some older RWD cars as well, like the AE86. -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Nov 19, 2008 - 10:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '08 From columbia al Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so just to be sure a 7afe would bolt up to a 4age tranny??
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