gt-four in winter, how good is it Options

[chode]

first, is it possible to make my celica GT ..... awd

jokes

im really looking into buying a gt-four (import), and i want to know (since i want to use it all year long)
how it performe in the snow.
i know the awd systeme work like a charm in summer,
but compared to those suby and audi how does the gt-four awd perform in snow


(didnt know where to post but i think handling is the best place)

This post has been edited by chode: Dec 12, 2008 - 10:52 AM

[_mikeE]

LOL get good snow tires; but with the amount of snow you get i'd be iffy hahah make sure you raise the car back up.
This is why I only like to visit Montreal during spring/summer.

[Nial]

first, is it possible to make my celica GT ..... awd

jokes

im really looking into buying a gt-four (import), and i want to know (since i want to use it all year long)
how it performe in the snow.
i know the awd systeme work like a charm in summer,
but compared to those suby and audi how does the gt-four awd perform in snow


(didnt know where to post but i think handling is the best place)

Driven mine in some pretty serious snow.....when other cars were grinding to a hault and just wheel spinning on the spot, the four just sailed past them as if the conditions were normal...the 50/50 4wd split works very well in the snow

[bizzerk]

first, is it possible to make my celica GT ..... awd

jokes

im really looking into buying a gt-four (import), and i want to know (since i want to use it all year long)
how it performe in the snow.
i know the awd systeme work like a charm in summer,
but compared to those suby and audi how does the gt-four awd perform in snow


(didnt know where to post but i think handling is the best place)

Driven mine in some pretty serious snow.....when other cars were grinding to a hault and just wheel spinning on the spot, the four just sailed past them as if the conditions were normal...the 50/50 4wd split works very well in the snow

I'm so envious of you =[, my car gets to stay in the garage when theres snow

[Euphoria]

if you are used to front wheel drive id say awd would be great compared to front wheel drive in the snow.

[chode]

my gt is already my four season car
i do know it would be awsome beside what i have for now
my question is more about the awd system
compared to other awd system (quattro suby..)
thank for you answer

for example, there is a guy that live near me that run is dsm (laser awd)
all year long and he is always stoke in the sonw
the dsm awd is awsome but not in snow

This post has been edited by chode: Dec 18, 2008 - 10:48 AM

[jimmykay]

I was lucky enough to visit montreal last week. I left the airport Tuesday during rush hour only to find all the interstates turned into parking lots. that night I went 30km in 4 hours.

I know this has nothing to do with the awd conversation. but I wanted to share.

(btw, I rented an awd '09 Volvo C30 and it handled the snow beautifully.)

[bccentaur3]

probably because of his tires. Any kind of car with blizzaks will tear up the snow.

[Jeunesse]

I was lucky enough to visit montreal last week. I left the airport Tuesday during rush hour only to find all the interstates turned into parking lots. that night I went 30km in 4 hours.

I know this has nothing to do with the awd conversation. but I wanted to share.

(btw, I rented an awd '09 Volvo C30 and it handled the snow beautifully.)

It is mandatory to have snow radials in Montreal (Thank God its not for Ontario). That's probably why the C30 handled well + its AWD.

[GriffGirl]

Even just driving a front wheel drive car w/LSD makes a huge difference in the snow. FWD w/LSD and ABS is where it's at for snow driving if you can't get 4WD or AWD.

[KAOS]

Even just driving a front wheel drive car w/LSD makes a huge difference in the snow. FWD w/LSD and ABS is where it's at for snow driving if you can't get 4WD or AWD.

My ABS is broke; and driving around without LSD sucks...

I miss it, but I'm not ready to pay $400 for a replacement hub assembly just to get the sensor back...

[bccentaur3]

Trust me FWD with LSD is nothing in the snow, unless you have snow tires mounted on them wheels. Yes it gets me up steep driveways covered with snow starting at a completely stop, but when you're stuck without blizzaks you're screwed.

[paul_gt4]

ABS is the last thing you want in snowy icey conditions as it cuts in too early and gives you no braking power under sliding, my WRC 205 has no ABS so i'm happy and i disconnect the womans Ford Pumas ABS which kills the traction control as well when the conditions get bad as her family lives out the back end of no where and there is hills galore to go up and down, we both prefer it without ABS as it makes life a bit easier.

[Stambo]

I'm happy without abs. It gives me more feel for whats going on.

[Driveby]

My GT4 is awesome in the snow though when pushed hard (fun!) feels like a RWD (more fun!!!) as its more prone to oversteer when pushed beyond its traction limits. No nasty ABS on my WRC either

This post has been edited by Driveby: Dec 19, 2008 - 2:50 PM

[windowlicker]

Even just driving a front wheel drive car w/LSD makes a huge difference in the snow. FWD w/LSD and ABS is where it's at for snow driving if you can't get 4WD or AWD.

werd. when i had snow tires on my srt4, it was fun to go tear up the snowy roads of montana. also the fun thing was that you're able to have more fun with the e brake than most awd cars cause you don't have to worry about a center differential. 180 degree turns in a fwd in the snow is always fun, hence the saying Fun Wheel Drive.... a lot of how well a car does in the snow is not only tires, but driver experience and ability in the snow. i would have just as much fun sliding my car around corners as friends in wrx's did, then again i had been driving in the snow for 11.5 years at that point.

[pipes]

You guys are right it does handle awsome...I'm going back 2 play in the snow

[JDMDWS]

Thanks all, i got the same question, (i'm living in Montréal....),

but i add one question

My St-205 will be here in 2009/03 (currently in Japan) and i will like to know if is possible to have 15in wheels on ST-205 (for winter tire) or only 16in and bigger fit

DWS

[azian_advanced]

only 16 in and bigger will fit.. and it needs to have a min. width with some # of offset.. not sure what the numbers are exactly

[Nial]

The smallest wheels you can fit on are 16`s due to the big discs and calipers.

Offset must be ET35 or less (within reason) although you might get away with an ET38 depending on the spoke design.

Width you can pretty much have anything 8.5" or less...you might get away with 9" but you might get some rubbing. I wouldnt go less than 7" wide.

The wheels to look out for to run winter tyres on are OZ Chrono`s...very rally style wheels and came as an option on the ST205...look very smart and suit the st205 very well.