3sge Beams into 98 GT |
3sge Beams into 98 GT |
May 14, 2009 - 1:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I've seen a few post with some details for this swap, but not specific enough to give me a direct answer.
I know a few have successfully done this swap and now its my turn to ask for help. I have a 98 Manual GT and wanted to know if there are any parts or anything I need to look out for when doing this swap. I will be picking up this Beams next Monday. The harness, ecu, air flow meter, header, shifter, fuel pump, axles, and tranny are included in this set. Does the harness need to be rewired to work or is it just plug and play? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks |
May 14, 2009 - 1:59 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '06 From Los Alamos, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i believe you need motor ecu speedo tranny and axle's and prob some more items but yeah. why not just go with the 3sgte?
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May 14, 2009 - 6:54 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
got the speedo. Price and convenience was a playing factor in choosing the beams. I saved on shipping because it was a local sale. Beams setup allows me to use the exisitng axle and tranny where as the 3sgte i would have to get a stronger tranny and axle. I like the red top look. The beams gives enough power for now.
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May 14, 2009 - 10:43 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '08 From Fort Worth, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
s that was the surpise you were talkin bout
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May 14, 2009 - 10:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
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May 14, 2009 - 11:39 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 5, '03 From South TX. Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
dam from jhot? i wanted to pick it up next month lol
it should be fun, i too want to go the n/a route this time |
May 14, 2009 - 11:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '07 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 67 (96%) |
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May 15, 2009 - 2:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
3rd/4th gen 3sge tranny have a higher final drive but they are all s54 transmissions.
Anybody know the top speed for 2.2 ltr gt celica vs a 3rd/4th gen 3sge. Im glad you going with beams swap. its a rare engine and i have that engine in mind when i come to do my swap. you been researching that engine from http://www.beams-redtop.com/redparts.htm you find any headers for it. beams wasn't given that much aftermarket support like it should have... you would need custom a/c lines and power steering i think?? This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 15, 2009 - 2:07 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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May 15, 2009 - 5:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
3rd/4th gen 3sge tranny have a higher final drive but they are all s54 transmissions. Anybody know the top speed for 2.2 ltr gt celica vs a 3rd/4th gen 3sge. Im glad you going with beams swap. its a rare engine and i have that engine in mind when i come to do my swap. you been researching that engine from http://www.beams-redtop.com/redparts.htm you find any headers for it. beams wasn't given that much aftermarket support like it should have... you would need custom a/c lines and power steering i think?? Thank you so much for that website info. Its gonna help alot. |
May 15, 2009 - 6:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 25, '06 From MN Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
You can't order any replacement parts for it if your in the states though right ?? Cause those numbers don't come up on 1sttoyota or toyotaworld.
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May 15, 2009 - 7:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
wow, cool to see that beams is going to something good...
that website will link you to a forum, if i recall, there is a guy that can get the parts from new zealand. I want to do this mod for a while. but no money, talk to outsider, he did the swap. dont know if he still has the car.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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May 15, 2009 - 10:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
yup no problem 2bcelica. Hmm not sure Remy, about the whole ordering factory parts for the engine works all in those beams forums.
yes outsider did the swap a few years ago. Also check this out http://www.southerncarcustoms.com/GS_Projects.htm there is a guy who did beams swap and also that white celica that did the 3sgte swap he looks familiar from pics here on 6gc. who is that guy. and also dr tweak did a swap on a 92 gt celica with beams in it. So that makes it 2 beams in the u.s. for sure. could be some more we don't know about??? check out maikl profile. he has some really nice headers. but it doesnt list what kind they are. he what got me inspired to considering the beams engine. http://www.6gc.net/members/maikl -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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May 15, 2009 - 10:59 PM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE there is a guy that can get the parts from new zealand. lol good ol' New zealand -------------------- |
May 18, 2009 - 9:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Just got the beams today. Looks great and in very good condition. Pics are a bit dark. Will be working on it soon and will be in touch with Dr. Tweak for the harness conversion. Can't wait to get everything completed.
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May 18, 2009 - 9:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Kelowna, BC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Congrats.....
The header is a two piece unit, make sure you got both parts. Did you get the cat that bolts on the end of the header? Do you have the gauges? You will need the tach. I still have the car. It is still running like a top. I have never had any trouble what so ever. This post has been edited by Outsider: May 18, 2009 - 9:36 PM -------------------- 1994 GT-S (BEAMS) swap complete |
May 18, 2009 - 9:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Congrats..... The header is a two piece unit, make sure you got both parts. Did you get the cat that bolts on the end of the header? Do you have the gauges? You will need the tach. I still have the car. It is still running like a top. I have never had any trouble what so ever. Yeah I got the bottom part of the header and the tach too. Did Tweak do ur harness also, or did u do it yourself? Any thing I should look out for when attempting this? Thanks |
May 18, 2009 - 9:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
you lucky sob. I envy you. But im glad we have another member doing a beams swap. since everyone always goes for turbo setup or 3sgte.!! cant wait till you get it done. I might even have to drive down to texas someday to check it out. CONGRATS!!!
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May 18, 2009 - 10:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Kelowna, BC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I did my harness (past avionics tech experience).
It did throw me for a loop though. After everything was installed, It would not start. I traced it back to a non-existant but required jumper under the fuse box in the engine bay. It was something I missed when doing my wiring. If I remember corectly, I only had to cut about 4 or 5 wires and lengthen them. Mechanically, parts will bolt into place. -------------------- 1994 GT-S (BEAMS) swap complete |
May 19, 2009 - 1:21 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
yo outsider. you have a vid of your beams swap in action. you still have kmh gauge or mph gauge conversion.
Do you have lsd on your car??? how many miles does your engine have -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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May 19, 2009 - 2:11 PM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
congrates good luck with the install, welcome to the 3sge family
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