Manual to Power Windows/Locks Conversion, REALLY CLOSE NOW! Need help, see pg 5 Options

[delusionz]

I've never seen manual windows & locks on a Celica before, do you have pics of the original setup?

[AnaXyd]

I did check that part number and it appears to be something that's only available in Norway? Looks like it's some sort of dealer only thing, not a Toyota thing.

Hmm, sounds strange. I should check this up! And maybe I can get some sets shipped around! The guy told me that this kit should contain everything thats needed to swap. The price was around 700-800. Yeh, its new parts..

[GriffGirl]

700-800 is absolutely and unequivocally out of the question.

So back to my original question, is there someone who can help me dissect some wiring diagrams?

[AnaXyd]

I was just trying to help you out..

[GriffGirl]

I was just trying to help you out..

I know... I don't mean to direct my frustration at you! After a year of wanting to wrap this project up, it's hard not to feel bitchy about it sometimes

[DEATH]

Drive to Texas - problem solved in 3,2...

[AnaXyd]

Got the kit checked, and it sucks. A guy at Toyota got some information to me, and this kit is NOT original Toyota parts, but an aftermarked "addon" kit. So, lets forget that ****, and help GriffGirl out of this mess of a problem. I really want this power windows too, but it seems like it is really difficult to do.

[GriffGirl]

ARTistic bump.

[lagos]

The window up/down switch has 4 wires:
1. Green with white stripe = connects to pin 1 on the window motor
2. Red with white stripe = Connects to pin 2 on the window motor
3. White with green stripe = connects to a switched 12v source that comes from the power main relay
4. White with black stripe = connects to the "power window master sw" pin 3.

[GriffGirl]

The window up/down switch has 4 wires:
1. Green with white stripe = connects to pin 1 on the window motor
2. Red with white stripe = Connects to pin 2 on the window motor
3. White with green stripe = connects to a switched 12v source that comes from the power main relay
4. White with black stripe = connects to the "power window master sw" pin 3.

It was the Door Control module I was looking to get the pinouts for

[viruz_one]

Any updates? I want power windows and doors and just found a celica with the premium 8 speaker set-up. What about just swapping the whole door out??

[Joe_1985]

that seems id be easiest

[GriffGirl]

If you'd want to swap the whole door out, I guess you could, although you'd still have to run the door harness into the interior through the A pillar. I myself didn't find it difficult at all to just swap out the manual window crank and rail with the power window rail and door card. Whatever you think is easier though; it's a matter of personal preference.

So I found out that ALL THIS TIME my door switch has been bad, which is why I've been stuck on this for SO long. I could just kick myself for not even thinking of that. Anyway, I've got a new master switch on its way to me and am SERIOUSLY hoping to wrap this up REALLY SOON since the rain "season" is going to start soon. (is it a season if it lasts for like 8 months?)

Anyway once you swap the door out or however you're going to do it, you still need to figure out a way to power it all, since the stock dash harness will not have the required plug-in in JB1 for the part of the door harness that controls the locks and window. You'll also need to reroute your side mirror wiring if you have power side mirrors (they all do, don't they?) since the master switch on the d/s door has the switch to operate the side view mirrors as well.

Updates, photos, and everything I know will follow as soon as I have it. I PROMISE.

[Cavegod]

heres a wiring diagram, just click power windows on the left hand side

http://www.celicatech.com/imagearchive/bgb...ewd/circuit.htm

This post has been edited by Cavegod: Sep 14, 2009 - 1:56 PM

[GriffGirl]

Yeah I've got that, it's connecting what to what that I get stuck on, since the stock dash harness doesn't accommodate the power windows. You can use a DEI-530T though to wire in the door harnesses; this would've worked just fine for me when I started this last summer had I had the brains to look at what was right in front of me and test the switch!

Anyway I'm working towards wiring in the windows and locks to the Toyota factory relay (door control module) by making a custom harness to bridge the door harness to. So when I get that done, I'll have instructions for both methods, the DCM and the DEI-530T.

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Sep 14, 2009 - 2:02 PM

[GriffGirl]

Bringing this back from the dead in hopes that someone who knows what they're looking at sees this and can help. Long story short, I've fabricated a harness from the donor car's dash harness to connect the door harnesses to the door control relay (DCM). It's pretty straight forward, but I'm not getting power to the motor and I'm not sure what I'm missing here.

Here's my connections, I'll base it on the pinout of the connector from the DCM as the "center" of the "tree":

1. RED/BLUE : RED/BLUE of diode
2. RED/YEL : to nothing. Diagram says "LEFT DOOR COURTESY SWITCH" ? Is this to unlock the door/s from the key?
3. BLU/RED : BLU/RED wires off p/s and d/s door harnesses (locks) - the thicker of the two blu/red
4. BLU/WH : BLU/WH d/s door harness
5. GRN/YEL : GRN/YEL d/s door harness
6. GRN : GRN p/s door harness
7. YEL : nothing. "UNLOCK WARNING SWITHCH" I have no idea what this is or where it goes. Or if I have this switch.
8. WHT/BLU : positive lead off the battery
9. GRY : GRY p/s door harness
10. BLU/BLK : BLU/BLK of p/s and d/s door harnesses
11. BLU : BLU of p/s and d/s door harnesses
12. BLU/ORG : BLU/ORG of p/s and d/s door harnesses
13. BLU/RED : BLU/RED d/s door harness (the thinner blu/red of the two)
14. RED/GRN : "DOOR COURTESY SWITCH RH" I have no idea what this connects to
15. BLU/YEL : BLU/YEL off the diode
16. WHT/BLK : ground

Leftover wires off the driver's side door harness:
GRN/WHT : GRN/WHT on p/s door harness
RED/BLU : RED/BLU on p/s door harness
WHT/GRN : WHT/GRN on p/s door harness, and then to Power Main Relay leg 3
WHT/BLK : Ground (but it's skinny - seems to skinny to be the only ground for the master switch?)

Result: DCM clicks when I use any of the switches, windows OR locks. But nothing else happens, no locks, no window up or down.

WHAT AM I MISSING!?!

[GriffGirl]

Oh I forgot to add if anyone who is REALLY good with electrical sees this and is reading it, I can provide EWGs if you need, just lemme know!

[bmj67]

i know the 7. YEL : "UNLOCK WARNING SWITHCH" is so if you leave the key in the ignition it knows and wont let the doors lock

[GriffGirl]

Maybe I just don't have that thing it's supposed to connect to then.... but for my purposes right now, I don't need it.

What's my missing link otherwise here? Anyone? Am I missing a ground or something? When you guys w/power windows roll your windows up or down, can you hear the relay box clicking? Seems like it shouldn't be clicking the way it does. If I hold the switch in the up or down position and keep it there, the box just clicks clicks clicks.

[bmj67]

the part you are missing is a blue box behind the dash most likely it controls the locking setup