Anyone Experience this??, Manual Tranny Shifting Problem Options

[pittfirefighter]

and BTW... i forgot to mention that i can shift that $#!T into gear without the clutch when the car was off!! i didnt realize that!!!

hate to burst your bubble but everyone can do that... the flywheel and input shaft are not turning so as long as the gears are lined up you can shift into gear while the car is off W/O the clutch... so you might be able to shft into a few of the gears when the car is off... depends how far they have turned since you shut the car off pushing the clutch allows the input shaft to turn... allowing you to push it into any gear that might not be lined up...

but the fact that your gear problems are all on the bottom gears means something important... its not clutch, its not synchros... your list is as follows... shifter bushings, shift linkage bushings, shifter arms, linkage... it HAS to be one of these... good luck to you!

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Jul 22, 2009 - 12:58 AM

[easternpiro1]

and BTW... i forgot to mention that i can shift that $#!T into gear without the clutch when the car was off!! i didnt realize that!!!

hate to burst your bubble but everyone can do that... the flywheel and input shaft are not turning so as long as the gears are lined up you can shift into gear while the car is off W/O the clutch... so you might be able to shft into a few of the gears when the car is off... depends how far they have turned since you shut the car off pushing the clutch allows the input shaft to turn... allowing you to push it into any gear that might not be lined up...

but the fact that your gear problems are all on the bottom gears means something important... its not clutch, its not synchros... your list is as follows... shifter bushings, shift linkage bushings, shifter arms, linkage... it HAS to be one of these... good luck to you!

lol bubble bursted... i dont remember being able to do that in the past which is what caused the alarm, but thanks pitt and 808, imma get on these asap.

[DEATH]

but the fact that your gear problems are all on the bottom gears means something important... its not clutch, its not synchros... your list is as follows... shifter bushings, shift linkage bushings, shifter arms, linkage... it HAS to be one of these... good luck to you!

This was my point also - Happy hunting guys

[808celica]

i know what you mean. yeah mines is unsheathed about 2in's also. the cable on the bell crank bracket only justifies the left to right movement of the shifter. at one time my bushings wore out and i could shake the shifter left to right while its in gear. pretty scary when driving too

changed the whole bracket and bushings and its all good there. my cables got shipped and should be here. i looked under herosblade's car while doing his axle change. it seems all too easy to change the cables. i'll let you know Piro if that doesnt fix.

im pretty confident though that it will, if your synchros are bad you wont be able to put it in gear when its off or on.

ah! my shifter is VERY loose when not in gear i can move it left and right easily!

and BTW... i forgot to mention that i can shift that $#!T into gear without the clutch when the car was off!! i didnt realize that!!!

and thanks 808, can you take a pic of where u changed the bushings at and the bell crank bracket?

k i will that when i install the cables, hopefully today (22nd)

really you didnt know that??? well your synchros are good then

but the fact that your gear problems are all on the bottom gears means something important... its not clutch, its not synchros... your list is as follows... shifter bushings, shift linkage bushings, shifter arms, linkage... it HAS to be one of these... good luck to you!

This was my point also - Happy hunting guys

thanks Matt, sorry i didnt look harder at the cables.

[easternpiro1]

i know what you mean. yeah mines is unsheathed about 2in's also. the cable on the bell crank bracket only justifies the left to right movement of the shifter. at one time my bushings wore out and i could shake the shifter left to right while its in gear. pretty scary when driving too

changed the whole bracket and bushings and its all good there. my cables got shipped and should be here. i looked under herosblade's car while doing his axle change. it seems all too easy to change the cables. i'll let you know Piro if that doesnt fix.

im pretty confident though that it will, if your synchros are bad you wont be able to put it in gear when its off or on.

ah! my shifter is VERY loose when not in gear i can move it left and right easily!

and BTW... i forgot to mention that i can shift that $#!T into gear without the clutch when the car was off!! i didnt realize that!!!

and thanks 808, can you take a pic of where u changed the bushings at and the bell crank bracket?

k i will that when i install the cables, hopefully today (22nd)

really you didnt know that??? well your synchros are good then

but the fact that your gear problems are all on the bottom gears means something important... its not clutch, its not synchros... your list is as follows... shifter bushings, shift linkage bushings, shifter arms, linkage... it HAS to be one of these... good luck to you!

This was my point also - Happy hunting guys

thanks Matt, sorry i didnt look harder at the cables.

nah i didnt know, i remember trying to do it in my beater (94 mitsubishi eclipse) and it not going, i just never wanted to try in the celica

[808celica]

Cables changed!! and now my shifter is hella crisp

here's the pics Hahah


the longer one is the old cable, really stretched

[easternpiro1]

damn... those look FAMILIAR... hmmmm. cables ordered. lol

[808celica]

damn... those look FAMILIAR... hmmmm. cables ordered. lol

let us know how it goes.

[bdog_v]

hey guys glad i came across your thread. My 94 celica gt 5 speed sometimes won't go into gear say 1st while stopped at a light. When this happens it will go in some of the other gears and others it won't go into then the next time it won't go into 1st I'll try the other gears and it will go into different ones than the time before very odd. I already have the synchromesh oil and it helped alot with shifting years ago when I first added it. This car does shift great while rolling. To fix this I tried adjusting the clutch pedal for more play by lengthening the pushrod on the master cylinder. I literally got 4 half turns on the nut and it was already maxed out. So I was suspicious of the master cylinder as the problem went away for a week and came back today. However the clutch always engages where it should I really don't think I have a master cylinder or slave cylinder problem. I have 0 leaks and I blead the system today and it did not help........

-So to be honest after reading this thread I am leaning towards the cables...... Any ideas????



-Where does one get new cables and what is the best price you can find them for?


Thanks......

[808celica]

from what i heard if it pops out its usually something trans wise. it wouldnt hurt to check your cables though. all you need is simple tools and and hour time.

new cables are $425 new from toyota. best bet is find a junked celica

This post has been edited by 808celica: Aug 5, 2009 - 3:45 AM

[easternpiro1]

x2 but first look at your cables and inspect them. follow them all the way from your trans to the fire wall and into the cabin to the shifter, if there is any break in the hard plastic be wary for any exposed cable which eventually becomes untwined and loose. look @808's pics to compare. mine did the SAME EXACT THING. BTW... SUCCESS! CABLES ARE IN AND SHIFTS LIKE A CHAMP! thanks guys!!

but if your cables are exposed, inspect closer to see if they are tightly wound around a center cable


and yeah... toyota will get you BAD. try to find a used set first... i had to pay 400 for mine.

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Aug 8, 2009 - 3:22 AM