*starting my turbo project* Options

[terbear4god4life]

i got a job!

haha

also i was wondering if i can still use my 2 1/2 piping just have the 3" down pipe?

so im gonna start buying parts and building a list for my 5sfte

i have been researching and id rather spend a lil bit of money at a time instead of the usual 3sgte big sum at once

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soo i need some help building a parts list..im a cheap bastard lol.

so iv been reading i need to get a compression test cuz of my 230,XXX miles
is there any way to boost my car for under a 1000 bucks?



so far i have this
everything underlined is what i have


tial 38mm wastegate
Turbosmart Supersonic Blow Off Valve
lotek triple a-piller
prosport egt, wideband afr, boost gauges
a ebay 3sgte manifold ( i hear alot of bad stuff about them but i wont be running high boost...at all)
t3/t4 turbo
apexi neo (iv heard good and bad) or do i need a safc2??
460cc rx7 injectors
3sgte oil pan
ebay 10an adapter
ebay oil filter relocation
ebay oil feed and return lines
ebay intercooler kit
Walbro fuel pump
hks filter
metal head gasket
ngk spark plugs
obx wires


what more do i need?

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: Jul 24, 2009 - 10:41 AM

[Promasta]

heres a start, probably missing a bunch of stuff:

460cc rx7 injectors
3sgte 2 bar map sensor
3sgte manifold
3sgte oil pan (50-75$) + KO racing -10an adapter
crapo ebay t3 adapter
garrett t3/to4e 46 trim with .63 exhaust housing
custom down pipe +DP flange
tial 38mm wastegate with 10psi spring
oil filter relocation (with the canton block adapter, transdapt filter relocator, and custom -10an stainless braided lines)
and of course the associated oil feed and return lines for the turbo.
a ebay FMIC + piping, couplers, and clamps
and a SAFCII for the noob (100-150used) or emanage ultimate or AEM FIC for more experienced.
Walbro fuel pump
Gauges

[SeverX13]

you will DEFINATLY need a compression test. but with 230k it is a little iffy to boost due to how many miles are on it. i would HIGHLY recommend buyin a 98+ 5s and going from there. and it IS possible to do it for 1000 but youd really have to find some deals. IMO spend the money and make it worth while, dont cheap out.

Cheap, Fast, Reliable
Pick 2.


i also recommend Water/Meth injection, Devilsown make a great kit, its about 230 bones. Most of us on here who have it just run 50/50 meth and water windshield washer fluid. but definatly worth it. it will help prevent engine knock. and as for the turbo i would go with .57 trim, externally wastegated. need any more help or have questions shoot me a PM. ill be glad to help.

~Brent~

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jul 24, 2009 - 2:29 AM

[terbear4god4life]

you will DEFINATLY need a compression test. but with 230k it is a little iffy to boost due to how many miles are on it. i would HIGHLY recommend buyin a 98+ 5s and going from there. and it IS possible to do it for 1000 but youd really have to find some deals. IMO spend the money and make it worth while, dont cheap out.

Cheap, Fast, Reliable
Pick 2.


i also recommend Water/Meth injection, Devilsown make a great kit, its about 230 bones. Most of us on here who have it just run 50/50 meth and water windshield washer fluid. but definatly worth it. it will help prevent engine knock.

id only be running low boost like 7-8psi if anything ill just go for it if i loose the block ill just replace it right now theirs no leaks and no smoke

is there a big difference between wastgates and bovs? whats a more resemble choice i like the supersonic cuz the loudness but could i run a bov and a wastgate?

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: Jul 24, 2009 - 2:32 AM

[SeverX13]

you will DEFINATLY need a compression test. but with 230k it is a little iffy to boost due to how many miles are on it. i would HIGHLY recommend buyin a 98+ 5s and going from there. and it IS possible to do it for 1000 but youd really have to find some deals. IMO spend the money and make it worth while, dont cheap out.

Cheap, Fast, Reliable
Pick 2.


i also recommend Water/Meth injection, Devilsown make a great kit, its about 230 bones. Most of us on here who have it just run 50/50 meth and water windshield washer fluid. but definatly worth it. it will help prevent engine knock.

id only be running low boost like 7-8psi if anything ill just go for it if i loose the block ill just replace it right now theirs no leaks and no smoke

if you blow it up you could possibly be losing more then just the block. which in the end will cost even MORE money. get a compression test done and post the results. I personally wouldnt turbo my car if it had 230k, its kinda like askin for problems.


you HAVE to run a BOV and a wastegate. a BOV basically just releases pressure. and wastegate realeases exhaust pressure.

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jul 24, 2009 - 2:36 AM

[terbear4god4life]

you will DEFINATLY need a compression test. but with 230k it is a little iffy to boost due to how many miles are on it. i would HIGHLY recommend buyin a 98+ 5s and going from there. and it IS possible to do it for 1000 but youd really have to find some deals. IMO spend the money and make it worth while, dont cheap out.

Cheap, Fast, Reliable
Pick 2.


i also recommend Water/Meth injection, Devilsown make a great kit, its about 230 bones. Most of us on here who have it just run 50/50 meth and water windshield washer fluid. but definatly worth it. it will help prevent engine knock.

id only be running low boost like 7-8psi if anything ill just go for it if i loose the block ill just replace it right now theirs no leaks and no smoke

if you blow it up you could possibly be losing more then just the block. which in the end will cost even MORE money. get a compression test done and post the results. I personally wouldnt turbo my car if it had 230k, its kinda like askin for problems.

im just a risky guy haha

but does it out that much stress on it at 7psi?

but ill get the test done thanks

[SeverX13]

it will cause stress on the engine either way. its 7psi more pressure then stock lol.

[terbear4god4life]

it will cause stress on the engine either way. its 7psi more pressure then stock lol.

lol

can i route the 3" pipe from the turbo than have it change into 2 1/2?

im getting some ngk iridium lasers right now

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: Jul 24, 2009 - 5:03 AM

[SeverX13]

it will cause stress on the engine either way. its 7psi more pressure then stock lol.

lol

can i route the 3" pipe from the turbo than have it change into 2 1/2?

im getting some ngk iridium lasers right now

you COULD, but i dont see why you dont just go 3" all the way. 2.5 is really standard for boost.

you are talking about 2.5 exhuast correct?

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Jul 24, 2009 - 12:06 PM

[terbear4god4life]

it will cause stress on the engine either way. its 7psi more pressure then stock lol.

lol

can i route the 3" pipe from the turbo than have it change into 2 1/2?

im getting some ngk iridium lasers right now

you COULD, but i dont see why you dont just go 3" all the way. 2.5 is really standard for boost.

you are talking about 2.5 exhuast correct?

yea because i already have a full 2.5 exhaust just thinking were i could save some money

[SeverX13]

i kno alot of honda guys do that. but i would recommend a full 3". thats just me


Cheap Fast Reliable

Pick 2

[boosted185]

i got a job!

haha

also i was wondering if i can still use my 2 1/2 piping just have the 3" down pipe?

so im gonna start buying parts and building a list for my 5sfte

i have been researching and id rather spend a lil bit of money at a time instead of the usual 3sgte big sum at once

..
.
.
.
.
.
.
soo i need some help building a parts list..im a cheap bastard lol.

so iv been reading i need to get a compression test cuz of my 230,XXX miles
is there any way to boost my car for under a 1000 bucks?



so far i have this
everything underlined is what i have


tial 38mm wastegate
Turbosmart Supersonic Blow Off Valve
lotek triple a-piller
prosport egt, wideband afr, boost gauges
a ebay 3sgte manifold ( i hear alot of bad stuff about them but i wont be running high boost...at all)
t3/t4 turbo
apexi neo (iv heard good and bad) or do i need a safc2??
460cc rx7 injectors
3sgte oil pan
ebay 10an adapter
ebay oil filter relocation
ebay oil feed and return lines
ebay intercooler kit
Walbro fuel pump
hks filter
metal head gasket
ngk spark plugs
obx wires


what more do i need?

HKS Filter? Filter for what? Oil? Fuel? Air? Also, you DON'T need new wires, your factory wires are more than enough for less than 10psi. When you order your wastegate, order it with the correct spring for the amout of pressure that you want to run, that way you don't have to dick around with an MBC/EBC. Another thing, the EGT is not as vital as a Wideband O2 or Boost gauge, so see what your budget allows and if you have the funds for an EGT then get one, if not its really no big deal, especially at the low amout of boost you'll be running. Yet, ANOTHER thing, to my knowledge there is no "kit" for an intercooler setup for the 5sfte. You will have to buy an intercooler, and then buy the piping and couplers and clamps seperately and piece it together yourself. Ask Manny (i don't remember) where he got all of his I/C piping, we bought Brent's from the same company and it worked beautifully!! Best of luck to you with your project. Take your time and do it right once, or spend the extra time and money to re-do it a second time!

[terbear4god4life]

alright thanks i was looking at the hks air filter lol


can i use a apexi neo or do i need a safc2?

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: Jul 24, 2009 - 1:13 PM

[_Jim_]

Its seems as tho you are looking to run an Ebay T3, so these are the parts you are going to need:

460cc RX7 injectors. (100$)
Gen2 map sensor (50$)
Ebay T3 (200$)
Tial 38mm wastegate (200$)
Ct26 to T3 adapter (50$)
Gen2 3sgte exhaust manifold (50$)
-10AN weld bund for YOUR CURRENT 5s oil pan. (buying a 3s oil pan just to run an adapter is USELESS IMO) (5$)
-3an or -4an 12" oil feed line with an oil restricter (50$)
-10an oil return line
Custom DP (150$?)
Upgraded clutch (400$)
FMIC (100$)
IC piping and couplers (150$)
Neo or SAFC2 for tuning (basically the same thing, nothing wrong with either) (150$)
Walboro pump (100$)
BOV of your choice (200$)
Oil filter relocation
Intake and filter
You can use your 2.5" exhaust, np there.

These are the BARE minimum parts need to run a T3 setup on a 5s below 10psi, and you are still looking at around 2000$. These prices include doing all the work yourself, no gauges, and I didnt even factor in dyno time. Which will DEFINITELY be needed since I didnt factor in a WB.

My best advice to you is to keep saving or buying parts on the side. And when you finally have all the parts mentioned, save up for a motor so your not left stranded if your high mileage 5s decided to take a crap. You can pick up a 98+ 5s long block for usually under 1000$.

If it were me doing it. I would buy all the parts that I needed, then save up another 2000-3000$ for the unexpected (that includes a blown motor).

Before continuing to buy parts, Do a compression and leak down test. No sense to keep buying parts for a motor that is already on its way out.

GL with you build man. The 5s T3 setup is A LOT of fun.

[bccentaur3]

go with the neo, you'll have a couple of more rpm points to tune. thats if you don't want to get the emanage. And about the exhaust. You can just rule out the CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE part. If you want to save money stick with the 2.5" exhaust you've got on there now and get a 3" dp off of ebay. Thats as long as if it will bolt up. You will run into no issues. Well the only issue probably would be not releasing the full potential of your car. If you want to save money with the exhaust by all means, do it. Because 3" dp to 2.5" exhaust isn't going to kill you. As long as you don't skimp out on important things you'll be okay because you can add an exhaust down the road.

[boosted185]

Haha YEA, What JIM said!!!!!!!!