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 Aug 12, 2009 - 1:06 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jul 15, '07 From High ridge MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit
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Aug 12, 2009 - 2:53 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 24, '07 From Oahu, Hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
like what everyone will say:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Now pick 2 -------------------- I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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Aug 12, 2009 - 4:56 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 13, '06 From Kaimuki, HI Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
QUOTE (my96celica @ Aug 11, 2009 - 8:06 PM)  There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link? -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Aug 12, 2009 - 5:05 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 4:56 AM) QUOTE (my96celica @ Aug 11, 2009 - 8:06 PM) There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link? how bout 19.5 psi? 
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Aug 12, 2009 - 5:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '06 From Kaimuki, HI Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:05 AM) how bout 19.5 psi? fail  ...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI?  -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Aug 12, 2009 - 6:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '08 From Bergenfield Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (78%) |
Manny is running 19.5 Daily and Shannon is running 16.7 daily.
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Aug 12, 2009 - 6:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I bet pressure2's 5S Celica has more balls than mine, would definitely reel me in on a quartermile run after he's done doing a fwd burnout on the starting line.
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1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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Aug 12, 2009 - 7:18 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 5:28 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:05 AM) how bout 19.5 psi? fail ...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? Yes there is much fail here.Manny and a few others on this site have proven without a shadow of a doubt that the stock 5S-FE is more than capable of withstanding 15+PSI daily on stock internals. It may be your opinion that the 5S shouldn't see more than 10PSI but your opinion is wrong. --------------------  ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM) Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
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Aug 12, 2009 - 11:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 22, '07 From nj Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
im built up on 10psi daily, more psi to come
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Aug 12, 2009 - 5:00 PM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 5:28 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:05 AM) how bout 19.5 psi? fail ...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? lmao. last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not? other than what you've read on the intranets. i run ~ 17-18psi, every day. 19+at the track.  i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen. read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp. i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s? ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap. i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps. big deal. still think i fail or am trying to be funny? 
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Aug 12, 2009 - 5:46 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 4, '06 From Kelowna, BC Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
zing!
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Aug 12, 2009 - 8:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 15, '07 From High ridge MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So is it a no go cause we just got off the topic also manny do you know if i can put the 3sgte tranny on my 2.2?I want to turn it into AWD and keep my motor
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Aug 12, 2009 - 8:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 10, '09 From Burtonsville, Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 5:00 PM) QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 5:28 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:05 AM) how bout 19.5 psi? fail ...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? lmao. last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not? other than what you've read on the intranets. i run ~ 17-18psi, every day. 19+at the track. i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen. read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp. i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s? ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap. i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps. big deal. still think i fail or am trying to be funny? presure, why do you feel its necessary to own people soo badly? Id be shocked if he posts something here again after that.
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Aug 12, 2009 - 9:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 15, '07 From High ridge MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lol
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Aug 12, 2009 - 10:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE (my96celica @ Aug 12, 2009 - 9:16 PM) So is it a no go cause we just got off the topic also manny do you know if i can put the 3sgte tranny on my 2.2?I want to turn it into AWD and keep my motor Yeah bro, totally. Do it and make it SICK. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Aug 12, 2009 - 11:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 13, '06 From Kaimuki, HI Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:00 PM) QUOTE (match220 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 5:28 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 12, 2009 - 12:05 AM) how bout 19.5 psi? fail ...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? lmao. last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not? other than what you've read on the intranets. i run ~ 17-18psi, every day. 19+at the track. i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen. read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp. i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s? ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap. i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps. big deal. still think i fail or am trying to be funny? woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up ), nice come back. I seriously thought you were trying to be funny, I didn't know the 5s could handle anything near 20 lbs with it having that high of a compression ratio. I guess I should have spent more time on 6gc before yanking the 5s for a 3s. I'm not trying to say I'm a know-it-all, but I've been "around the block" on cars, tuning school, engine swaps, used to work at a garage, grew up around muscle cars with my dad..blah blah. I've never liked the idea of turboing a stroker, unless its a V8 or V6 with a lower cr, I would rather turbo a car with a square or slightly oversquare crank, which is why I threw out the 5s, it just doesn't seem safe to turbocharge, maybe if the cr was lowered, added forged pistons, and replaced the head then I would feel safe about doing it. If I had known I could put 300hp to the wheels on stock internals I would have probably kept it. I usually look at the 500+ numbers in building an engine though. Can the 5s put that out safely, even building up the stock internals? My current goal is 600 hp at the wheel with the Gen III, and I believe I can do it. I usually aim high though.No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction ? What was the other thing we were arguing about a month ago?
This post has been edited by match220: Aug 12, 2009 - 11:05 PM -------------------- -Jay
95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other 01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished 02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve |
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Aug 12, 2009 - 11:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
5sgte will get that and then some.
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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Aug 13, 2009 - 12:18 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
match220, sign up to mr2oc and start reading. there are tons of high hp build threads on there that you can learn from.
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Aug 13, 2009 - 2:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 15, '07 From High ridge MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well... off to find a 3sgte tranny then.
This post has been edited by my96celica: Aug 13, 2009 - 2:31 AM |
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Aug 13, 2009 - 6:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '07 From Bergen county NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 24 (100%) |
you can not just get an 3stge all-wheel drive tranny throw it on and have all wheel drive theres a lot that goes into it and only a few that have completed it.
Your best bet is to find an e153 lsd trans and set that up for the car and at least have front wheel lsd. otherwise get a 5th gen alltrac or be one of the ones that do the whole rear wheel conversion. -------------------- |
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