Get ready for 2nd generation of SS-four..., 4x4=205 ;) |
Get ready for 2nd generation of SS-four..., 4x4=205 ;) |
Aug 12, 2009 - 3:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What I'm told is that there is two senders, one for the gauge and one for the warning light.
My GT4 and my partners SS-III both coincidentally happen have a failed warning light sender, so I assume your gauge sender could just as easily cease to function. To this day I have never found any separate fuse, tried replacing bulbs, etc. I'm not confident enough to fiddle with the fuel system so I've just done without, the gauge however is a bit more useful than the light though, so good luck with that If you ever replace the part, post pics of what you unbolted and any danger precautions in regards to exposing the fuel tank, and how to pull it out without dropping something inside there. But yeah I'm 99% sure it's one of those senders, btw, the st205 may have a different part number to the st202/4 due to its location under the boot. EDIT: I read somewhere to test whether they are failed you can isolate the sender wires and i think you need to either ground or send a voltage down it and watch to see if anything happens on your dash. This post has been edited by delusionz: Aug 12, 2009 - 3:39 AM -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Aug 12, 2009 - 6:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '07 From Manchester, England Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I think Delusionz has it right. The fuel gauge and the warning light work off two different circuits although the sensors are in the same fuel sender unit.
Looking at the diagram, i would guess that by disconnecting the plug at the fuel sender and grounding the yellow wire with red stripe that the gauge should jump to show a full tank. If the fault is a break in the wire between the sender and the gauge then this would not happen however. -------------------- 1995 ST205 GT4 Silver - breaking for parts
1995 ST205 GT4 Black- OZ Super Tourismo WRCs, GReddy Profec B Spec II boost controller, C-One Strut Brace, GFB Mach1 Dump Valve, Defi H.U.D., Apexi power Intake ~300BHP @ 1.05Bar. |
Aug 13, 2009 - 3:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Congrats Martin Nice "upgrade"!!
You will have Email today with all the info -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Aug 13, 2009 - 4:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 18, '07 From Bergen county NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 24 (100%) |
Malpaso what a great thread...I wish you the best of luck and I hope u can get the registration done quick and easy...I cant wait to see more beautiful pictures of the car
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Aug 14, 2009 - 3:11 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
Thank you Shannon. Unfortunately I have made one single mistake during import (when re-registering the car in UK) and because of that I can not register it as RHD car now . So only chance is make conversion to LHD and register it as common LHD car (that should not be problem at all). That makes all planes more clear. For now I have just one aim. Make that GT-four street legal here and swap body kit from old ST-T. So this is the plan:
- take GT-four to Romas and let him to do that work. He has made already about 6 conversions like this so I'm pretty sure car would be in good hands . Thank you Romas for that! Can't wait for your mail . - swap SS-four body kit to GT-four and finish 2nd. gen of SS-four - rest depends on remaining budget... option one: let "old ST-T" look like stock GT-four and use it as is. option two: break "old ST-T" apart... that means use all necessary LHD parts for GT-Four conversion (so love conversion costs) and sell the rest... (any first dibs for "GT-four replica maker's kit" that includes complete hood, complete bumper with fogs, all brackets, seals, locks, hooks... everything in one? ). My ST-T has a lot of nice parts installed (TEIN SS coilovers, upgraded sways, front-rear strut bars, JDM trunk mat... yea... probably it will not fit GT-four trunk , etc.) so I might get some money from it to cover conversion expenses. -------------------- No more replicas... This is evolution... This is SS-four :)
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Aug 14, 2009 - 5:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 24, '07 From Oahu, Hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
I'll miss the original ss-four though
-------------------- I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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Aug 14, 2009 - 5:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 8, '09 From Fiji Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
always wanted to get me one of those....wayyyyyy awsooommmeeeee mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 14, 2009 - 12:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
I think Delusionz has it right. The fuel gauge and the warning light work off two different circuits although the sensors are in the same fuel sender unit. Looking at the diagram, i would guess that by disconnecting the plug at the fuel sender and grounding the yellow wire with red stripe that the gauge should jump to show a full tank. If the fault is a break in the wire between the sender and the gauge then this would not happen however. ... So it's confirmed. Gauge is working, wires are fine. That means I need new sender... -------------------- No more replicas... This is evolution... This is SS-four :)
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Aug 14, 2009 - 1:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Thank you Shannon. Unfortunately I have made one single mistake during import (when re-registering the car in UK) and because of that I can not register it as RHD car now . So only chance is make conversion to LHD and register it as common LHD car (that should not be problem at all). That makes all planes more clear. For now I have just one aim. Make that GT-four street legal here and swap body kit from old ST-T. So this is the plan: - take GT-four to Romas and let him to do that work. He has made already about 6 conversions like this so I'm pretty sure car would be in good hands . Thank you Romas for that! Can't wait for your mail . - swap SS-four body kit to GT-four and finish 2nd. gen of SS-four - rest depends on remaining budget... option one: let "old ST-T" look like stock GT-four and use it as is. option two: break "old ST-T" apart... that means use all necessary LHD parts for GT-Four conversion (so love conversion costs) and sell the rest... (any first dibs for "GT-four replica maker's kit" that includes complete hood, complete bumper with fogs, all brackets, seals, locks, hooks... everything in one? ). My ST-T has a lot of nice parts installed (TEIN SS coilovers, upgraded sways, front-rear strut bars, JDM trunk mat... yea... probably it will not fit GT-four trunk , etc.) so I might get some money from it to cover conversion expenses. It's a hard decision...but, I think the SS-FOUR should stay an SS-FOUR, and the GT-FOUR should stay the same. I'd say grab the interior parts from the old car and transfer it to the new, but keep the GT-4 bumper, hood, and everything else that makes it special. This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Aug 14, 2009 - 1:34 PM -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Aug 15, 2009 - 3:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '05 From Fagnano Olona/ Varese - Italy Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Congratulation Martin!!... I like your new GT4
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Aug 15, 2009 - 4:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 6, '09 From Bergen County,NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
Hell of a story man, one of the greatest told. You defiantly deserve this car for the journey you put up for it.
-------------------- 1996 Toyota Celica ST 25th Anni. Edition #461
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Aug 15, 2009 - 8:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Burlington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Not for nothing Malpasso but your SS-FOUR is an inspiration to me (as well as all the GT-4s) and I plan to do one just like what you have (as far as exterior look is concerned). To me you should keep the SS-FOUR as is and use something else to convert your GT-4. And while you are at it, make it yours. Your SS-FOUR is unique...how are going to make your GT-4 unique? How is it going to be "THE MALPASO" GT-4? I'm challenging you!
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