3sge Beams into 98 GT Options

[2bcelica]

so anyway i dont think we got an answer 2bcelica? did you solve the idle promblem??

Sorry, been busy so haven't had a chance to work on the celica. I've tested the spark plug coils one by one and all seems to be fine. There must be a vacumm leak some where, so I'll have to use a smoke machine to test and see if white smoke comes out any where, which would confirm if there is a leak or not. If that doesn't work then the injectors might be clogged up. When I have more time - I'll eventually figure it out.

I don't think the 5S timing belt will work, although I did not even compare the two. I wonder if the newer corolla's or camry timing belt would work. I might just go to Autozone or something and ask them if I could compare.

The C-One belt seems alot firmer and better quality compared to OEM. I had ordered timing belt from toyota 13568-79105 -- and was the wrong one. This part number that I got from toyoDIY was probably meant for the 2nd or 3rd gen 3SGE and not for the Beams. This part number belt was a bit longer then the beams belt. So if any 3SGE non beams in need of timing belt let me know cause I have 2. I was not able to return it since it was a special order item.

[BonzaiCelica]

looking here at the http://hirano-tire.com/brand/hks/hks-102.htm and it seems that the timing belt number for the beams blacktop and redtop have the same part number.

i thought they were different becuase the blacktop has vvti on exhaust cams, but it seems they are the same. thats a good find on ebay. thanks for confirming the timing belt part numbers and for those links.

[njccmd2002]

yeah i have a timing belt and no beams lol

[BonzaiCelica]

yeah i have a timing belt and no beams lol

oh haha, but your in the process of trying to get one right from the thread i saw you post about 2 weeks ago...

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 1, 2009 - 4:43 PM

[Rusty]

Cambelt #13568-80015 $45 from toyota New Zealand (Rusty Hook us up)

maybe

Sorry, been busy so haven't had a chance to work on the celica. I've tested the spark plug coils one by one and all seems to be fine. There must be a vacumm leak some where, so I'll have to use a smoke machine to test and see if white smoke comes out any where, which would confirm if there is a leak or not. If that doesn't work then the injectors might be clogged up. When I have more time - I'll eventually figure it out.

ok best of luck

I don't think the 5S timing belt will work, although I did not even compare the two. I wonder if the newer corolla's or camry timing belt would work. I might just go to Autozone or something and ask them if I could compare.

I doubt it as one is twin cam the other isn't

[BonzaiCelica]

uhh stuipd ? to ask, but the timing belts is a cam belt right? its just a different name for it....

[Batman722]

uhh stuipd ? to ask, but the timing belts is a cam belt right? its just a different name for it....

yes.

[2bcelica]

so anyway i dont think we got an answer 2bcelica? did you solve the idle promblem??

Idle problem resolved. Yippy. Had time to take the intake manifold off - resealed the gaskets for the intake manifold and its adapter to the head and all is resolved. Had an air leak at the adapter part that sits in between the head and the manifold. Runs smooth now and does not shut off when under load while AC is on full blast. I'm 100% satisfied. Now when I get more money to spend - i'll put the air intake in. Thank you to all that have been supportive through my build and your patience for my long waited completition.

I wonder how much HP am I exactly putting out. DYNO on the list of things to do.

[njccmd2002]

how much is a dyno anyways?

so are you the 2nd or third celi beams in the us?

[njccmd2002]

another questions, which gaskets did you use for the intake and exhaust. I read that you had to make a custom exhaust, couldt you use the original setup?

[2bcelica]

how much is a dyno anyways?

so are you the 2nd or third celi beams in the us?

Dyno ranges from $50 - $150 usually depending on what kind of adjustments and how long or how many pulls you do. Here is a link to a place I will be taking it to. THey have price ranges. http://www.atsracing.net/dyno.htm

I don't know what number i stand in line, but probably not 2nd or 3rd - more like 6 i would assume. On this forum - I know Outsider was the first I think - and I may be the 2nd since I don't recall any one else at the moment.

[2bcelica]

another questions, which gaskets did you use for the intake and exhaust. I read that you had to make a custom exhaust, couldt you use the original setup?

I used the OEM gasket for the intake manifold - for the exhaust went to local autozone for exhaust gasket ring and local exhaust shop for gasket and flange for the exhaust catalytic converter.

[BonzaiCelica]

well im sure you know this, but if you have everything stock on the car for which the most part you do except for your exhaust set up. you should see 169 whp.

glad to hear you fixed your idle problem. i would say you are the 4th person to have a swapped redtop into the celica.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 8, 2009 - 4:28 PM

[Rusty]

so anyway i dont think we got an answer 2bcelica? did you solve the idle promblem??

Idle problem resolved. Yippy. Had time to take the intake manifold off - resealed the gaskets for the intake manifold and its adapter to the head and all is resolved. Had an air leak at the adapter part that sits in between the head and the manifold. Runs smooth now and does not shut off when under load while AC is on full blast. I'm 100% satisfied. Now when I get more money to spend - i'll put the air intake in. Thank you to all that have been supportive through my build and your patience for my long waited completition.

I wonder how much HP am I exactly putting out. DYNO on the list of things to do.

ahh thats good to hear, how does it drive now?

[2bcelica]

damm - problem is back now, but a bit different from before - it shuts off at low rpm during idle and while coasting in neutral. I think the cylinder head gasket might be an issue. It was driving fine for about 70 miles until I was on my way home last night when it started, now its occuring regularly at low rpm.

When it stalls - I can start it up again and it would stay, but if i give it a little gas and release - RPM would drop and drop all the way down then dies. When I have time I'll work on it again. Sooner or later I'll get this engine working 100%. I wonder should I get a compression test to confirm my speculations.

[BonzaiCelica]

damn thats sucks. compression test hmm that would be a great idea, good thing to do before you do your dyno run as well.

[Rusty]

are you gettin any check engine light coming up?


I reckon you have a fault something to do with the AFM or TB sensors, did you do your smoke test??

[njccmd2002]

Hey, besides the engine, did it come with all the sensors needed?

which fuel pump did you use, and what about ignitors and stuff, fuel filters?

[njccmd2002]

AFM is the same in the avalon 97 - 99, just found that!!

[Marc6818]

i believe you need motor ecu speedo tranny and axle's and prob some more items but yeah. why not just go with the 3sgte?

I want to do a 3sgte swap on my 96 manual, do I have to do any motor bay modifications or will it just fit right in?

i believe you need motor ecu speedo tranny and axle's and prob some more items but yeah. why not just go with the 3sgte?

I want to do a 3sgte swap on my 96 manual, do I have to do any motor bay modifications or will it just fit right in?