5-Speed: Stuck in gear, Stuck out of gear, low pedal. Please help, 96 Celica GT Options

[apekim]

I can not figure out what is going wrong here. My car was running fine until I had put it up for a few months to replace the oil pump, timing belt, water pump.

When I put it back on the road it seemed like the throw out bearing was a bit dry because it was somewhat noisier than I remembered. After driving the car on and off a few days, everything was back to normal sounding.

After a few weeks of driving, and on my way home one night I got to a stop light. I pressed the clutch pedal down and tried to put the car in neutral but it would not come out of gear. A hard pull on the shifter would not even do it. I quickly shut the car down and it came right out of gear. I started the car back up and was able to put it into gear and start driving. Shifting up into second and third gear was not easy, it did not want to go into gear, I got it to go in but it seemed like I was forcing it.

I ran it back and forth in the driveway and got some really mixed results. Sometimes it would go right in, other times it would not. Sometimes it would not come out gear. Other times it seemed like the clutch would be at the bottom of the pedal.

So I let the car sit for a few weeks and now I am stumpted as to what to do. I do not see any leaks around the master cylinder or the slave.

Mike

[Cavegod]

get someone to push the clutch and inspect the slave cylinder on the gearbox front to see if its moving.

[Smaay]

sounds like either the salve or master cylinder are going out and you are loosing pressure in teh system. the clutch is not releasing all teh way

[apekim]

Thanks for the reply.

Is it correct to say that if the master or slave cylinder were bad, the cause would be a leak? I am not sure how else one of these could fail.

[Cavegod]

the seals inside the cylinders could be leaking so when you press the pedal the fluid is not pushed along the pipe.

[apekim]

I will check that.
Thanks!!

[apekim]

Had someone hold the clutch pedal in while I watched the slave cylinder. There was no dropping. The slave movement was about an inch of travel. I drained the transmission gear oil and filled it with the synchromesh gear oil. Took it for a rive and it seemed okay. Later that day I decided to take it for another ride. Started it up and tried to put it in gear and it just would no go into any gear. Shut it down, and it easily went into gear. Started it up and it did not do into gear. Shut it down again and tried it and it went in all gears. Started it one last time and it went into all the gears. Drove it around for an hour and a half and it seemd fine. I just can not figure out why it would not go into gear. I have 150,000 on it.

[808celica]

Had someone hold the clutch pedal in while I watched the slave cylinder. There was no dropping. The slave movement was about an inch of travel. I drained the transmission gear oil and filled it with the synchromesh gear oil. Took it for a rive and it seemed okay. Later that day I decided to take it for another ride. Started it up and tried to put it in gear and it just would no go into any gear. Shut it down, and it easily went into gear. Started it up and it did not do into gear. Shut it down again and tried it and it went in all gears. Started it one last time and it went into all the gears. Drove it around for an hour and a half and it seemd fine. I just can not figure out why it would not go into gear. I have 150,000 on it.

That has nothing to do with your clutch lines man Top right corner near the firewall should be your clutch master resovior, what is the coloration on the brake fluid?? Locate your clutch slaver bleeder nipple, attach a clear hose to the end(make sure it fits snug), open the bleeder and let the clutch line gravity bleed itself. Make sure you have like 3 bottles of DOT 3 Brake fluid. When the clutch master resovior gets low fill it back up, make sure the clutch slave bleeder with the clear hose is dripping 1 drop every second into a big gatorade size bottle. Flush the system until new fluid is in the clutch master. Close the clutch slave bleeder, remove hoses, and go for a drive.

Do not pump the clutch pedal during this process. You'll put air back in your lines.

Do both master and slave at the same time. did you replace the clutch yet??

This post has been edited by 808celica: Sep 14, 2009 - 5:38 PM

[Jamchell]

Yea sometimes when you store a manual car for a few months, air finds it's way into the system, not exactly sure why. Maybe the seals/cylinders get a bit dry and when you depress the pedal the first few times they let air in on the return stroke, a bleed should definitely help some.