 Swap: 3sge Beams into 94GT-RIP=DEAD |
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 Sep 16, 2009 - 7:39 PM
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QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 12:12 PM)  OK, - confirmed - the other MAF from 99+ toyota's that share the same plug will not work - it threw a CEL. what does that mean??? |
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Sep 16, 2009 - 8:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 12:39 AM) QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 12:12 PM) OK, - confirmed - the other MAF from 99+ toyota's that share the same plug will not work - it threw a CEL. what does that mean??? Means not interchangeable. |
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Sep 16, 2009 - 9:14 PM
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QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 8:49 PM) QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 12:39 AM) QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 12:12 PM) OK, - confirmed - the other MAF from 99+ toyota's that share the same plug will not work - it threw a CEL. what does that mean??? Means not interchangeable. lol i meant what does it men to throw a cel? |
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Sep 16, 2009 - 9:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Check engine light
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Sep 16, 2009 - 10:00 PM
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is the one you got the same part # as the beams one ?
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Sep 16, 2009 - 11:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Murphy, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 4:00 AM) is the one you got the same part # as the beams one ? 22204-20010 ? I have the beams one - i was just testing out my curiousity since I noticed that a 2000 celica a 05 corolla an 06 solara share the same MAF which also uses the same plug as the beams AFM. |
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Sep 17, 2009 - 1:48 PM
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Look what arrived today.
 Damn ebay intake is being delayed. Looks like an arrival middle of next week. Seller was TicTuning just an fyi. It will give me an extra few days to get this exhaust figured out. This post has been edited by turnip: Sep 17, 2009 - 1:59 PM |
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Sep 17, 2009 - 2:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '07 From Philly Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
awesome thread so far...lots of good info...i would like to do the same swap one day.
What exactly are you using the car for? AutoX, track, road course? are you going strictly N/A? any motor work once its in a running other then intake, exhaust, and the usual bolt-on's? PLEASE put up some pictures of the car, and such, i would love to take a look at it. inside and out Cool thread, you get props sir --------------------  I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC 1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard 1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard 1988 Dodge Aries K (sold) 1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica 1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica 1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress 1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale 1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress |
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Sep 17, 2009 - 4:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 24, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE (95st-celica @ Sep 17, 2009 - 3:55 PM) awesome thread so far...lots of good info...i would like to do the same swap one day. What exactly are you using the car for? AutoX, track, road course? are you going strictly N/A? any motor work once its in a running other then intake, exhaust, and the usual bolt-on's? PLEASE put up some pictures of the car, and such, i would love to take a look at it. inside and out Cool thread, you get props sir DIRT track Strictly N/A. Shooting for an stock engine with high output for low maintance reasons. Making the car lighter and having LSD and hopefully some 245 meat eaters on the front it should allow it to hook up. I race with guys who have 225 to 250 at the wheels and the car wont hook up because one it dirt and they cant squeeze a fat tire on the front. Ever see the size of a world outlaw late model tire?? Its freaking huge but it has to be with the cars putting out 400-500 at the wheels. Suspension will be key as well. Gonna try do the and gonna polish the intake manifold over the winter. This post has been edited by turnip: Sep 17, 2009 - 4:14 PM |
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Sep 17, 2009 - 9:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
sweet, how many miles on the cluster.....
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Sep 18, 2009 - 8:31 AM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 9:47 PM) sweet, how many miles on the cluster..... 95,986 k |
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Sep 19, 2009 - 10:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
hey, whats the status on the start issue?
do you have pics of where the charcoal canister is plugged to the engine sensor. and did you use the stock beams alternator or the 5sfe. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Sep 20, 2009 - 9:11 AM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 19, 2009 - 11:13 PM) hey, whats the status on the start issue? do you have pics of where the charcoal canister is plugged to the engine sensor. and did you use the stock beams alternator or the 5sfe. It starts and idles fine at this point. All of my issue revolved around the sensitivity of the AFM. I have not put it back together just yet as I am working on fabricating an exhaust setup and waiting on some parts from jegs to arrive. Also the intake will not be here till Wed. likely. As for your questions. I am using beams altenator but I did remove AC and power steering only have the Alt. belt on. As for hte purge canister I am using the stock 5sfe canister in the stock location which is on frame on the driverside right next to the firewall on the 94 gt. All the vacuum lines on my beams reached the canister with no problems. This post has been edited by turnip: Sep 20, 2009 - 9:12 AM |
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Sep 20, 2009 - 2:47 PM
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you dont need the cluster gauge, all you need is the 7,000 rpm gauge from a st202 that uses 3rd gen 3sge or 3sgte and you use your original cluster gauge that you have on your celica.
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Sep 20, 2009 - 6:41 PM
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QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 21, 2009 - 12:11 AM) QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 19, 2009 - 11:13 PM) hey, whats the status on the start issue? do you have pics of where the charcoal canister is plugged to the engine sensor. and did you use the stock beams alternator or the 5sfe. It starts and idles fine at this point. All of my issue revolved around the sensitivity of the AFM. I have not put it back together just yet as I am working on fabricating an exhaust setup and waiting on some parts from jegs to arrive. Also the intake will not be here till Wed. likely. As for your questions. I am using beams altenator but I did remove AC and power steering only have the Alt. belt on. As for hte purge canister I am using the stock 5sfe canister in the stock location which is on frame on the driverside right next to the firewall on the 94 gt. All the vacuum lines on my beams reached the canister with no problems. Did you have to repin the wires for the gauge cluster? -------------------- 94 Celica GT
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Sep 21, 2009 - 12:31 AM
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QUOTE you dont need the cluster gauge, all you need is the 7,000 rpm gauge from a st202 that uses 3rd gen 3sge or 3sgte and you use your original cluster gauge that you have on your celica. actually you do need the BREAMS rpm guage cluster, since its required to run vvti. I have heard of people swapping it over to non BEAMS engines, but needs rewiring of some sorts. I haven't done this myself, and I dont know if there is any difference on different celicas (5sfe 3sge/gte) -------------------- |
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Sep 21, 2009 - 12:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
uhh from what 2bcelica said, you do not need 3sge redtop cluster.
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Sep 21, 2009 - 11:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
so any 7 redline 3sge will work?
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Sep 22, 2009 - 12:42 AM
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
umm hes stll using the beams rpm guage (like I said), but hes swapped over the speedo one, unless I'v missed the part your talking about?
QUOTE actually you do need the BEAMS rpm guage cluster, since its required to run vvti. ^^ I spelled BEAMS wrong lol
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Sep 22, 2009 - 9:49 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '06 From POLAND Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You dont need celica beams cluster or rpm guge ....
can be stock and for convert signal use : SGI-8D http://www.dakotadigital.com/pdf/sgi-8d.pdf I did it , working well for beams ECU -------------------- BEAMS swaped .......
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