2 Stage 3SGTE Swap thread, Stage 1.. almost done =) Options

[_Jim_]

I am glad you are happy with the motor, cant wait to heat about his new exhaust setup your working on. If there is anything else you need, give me a call. GL MAN

[SlvrCelica09]

MAJOR UPDATE.. 1 of 2


Hey guys.. just got back home from another 9 am to 5 pm grueling day of swap lol... so heres where i stand at the moment:

5sfe engine out
WRC st205 in
competition clutch in
lightweight flywheel in
50% of wiring done

i would have been wayyyyyyy more ahead but getting that 5s out was a "B" word.. took most of the time because we were trying to remove it from the tranny.. I called jim and he said just to remove it as a whole.. thanks for the heads up man or else the 5s would still prolly be in my bay haha. So.. Id say we r like 75% done with the swap process.. still need to bolt on the exhaust, hook up the W2A intercooler, finish the wiring.. and i think we should be complete.. oh and another set back.. apparently i have been driving with a broken rear motor mount.. my boy twan showed it to me and i was uuber pissed.. but oh well thats life.. should have that on monday.. when we start back up again.. so yea im very pleased with the amount of work we got in today.. we started with the 5s still in this morning.. and now the 205 is in =). i will be selling the 5sfe so look out for my FS thread... heres some pics:






ill have the final major update soon

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 26, 2009 - 6:45 PM

[SwissFerdi]

Nice!

[kavy]

AWSOME!!

[_Jim_]

Great progress today Mike, and I am glad I could help. If there is anything else you need, or that I can help you with...you know the number man. GL, and I am looking forward to the secret exhaust pics!

[SlvrCelica09]

Great progress today Mike, and I am glad I could help. If there is anything else you need, or that I can help you with...you know the number man. GL, and I am looking forward to the secret exhaust pics!

thanks alot man.. right now we still gotta order the new exhaust.. so sometime next week the pics of it will be up hopefully.. i was wondering though if u can go over 1 more time the custom wiring that needs to be done again? i want to go in monday ready to do.. and not look up haha.. i know i gotta make relays for the IC.. and you said something about the starter also.. im also wondering about the cluster and how to get the turbo sensor to work.. since thats all i have right now. im really hoping to at least be complete with the wiring and IC setup by monday

[SlvrCelica09]

ok.. monday... epic fail.. =( naw not yet lol.. we made even more progress than friday.. but there are some questions.. so jim i uploaded the pics for you.. hopefully you can make out my questions.. well heres the pics of what we have done so far




ok and now heres my questions jim.. or anyone else with 205 knowledge..

question #1.. where does these 2 hoses connect too?




question #2.. what goes in or plugs behind this part? looks like a part of the factory BOV..


question #3.. where does this plug to?


question #4.. does a cap go here? or a small hose?


question #5.. what plugs here?


question #6.. this part says "purse" on it.. so now im wondering what missing hose plugs on here..


question #7.. im thinking this is the turbo sensor.. what plugs into here? couldnt find it at all..

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im also wondering about making new relays.. for IC pump and starter.. how exactly would you go about doing this.. ive been told.. but im a visual learner sadly.. so if anyone has pics of how to do this i would greatly appreciate..

a little summary..

perhaps i could have done even more research.. or perhaps read the manual even better.. although i suck at analizing things without pictures. I think ive done good research.. i was able to figure out alot of the wiring.. and bolted on everything that was needed.. the transmission and clutch all bolted on well.. even the wiring up to making new relays i did without much hassle.. although im sure 205 is wayyy easier than 185. Theres still much much i need to learn however... as you all can see lol.. but i dont think the answers to these questions arent something I cannot handle. Just needs comprehension and time to figure out..

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 28, 2009 - 9:08 PM

[Batman722]

1. they go to the jdm charcoal canister that has 2 vac lines to it, the usdm one has 1. You can just block them off or connect one to the US cannister and use the other for a boost gauge.

2. that connects to the st205 airbox

3. take a better pic, can't really see it.

4. small hose. It vents the IC coolant system in case of pressure build up.

5. That's the stock oil catch can. It connects to the intake.

6. from the throttle body vac line (question 1)

7. that is for the jdm charcoal cannister, just leave it unless you have the jdm cannister.

wiring...use this (pictured)
Should have come with your motor and wire harness.



if not, just use these

[SlvrCelica09]

* still work in progress *

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 30, 2009 - 7:35 AM

[SlvrCelica09]

* A little baby update *

hey guys.. as of right now:

yesterday had some issues with the ECU and wiring for the clutch starter.. resolved that today so now its turning again..
I have some fuel problems now.

It seems as though the engine is not getting any fuel.. Im thinking perhaps it is because I still have the stock 5sfe fuel pump in there and it cannot send the fuel to the engine. I do remember being told once before that It was possible to still drive the car with the stock 5sfe fuel pump.. So i dont know if it is in fact the fuel pump

Another possibility would be the fuel injectors.. but they have been tested and it is working fine.. as a matter of fact the car started for a 1/2 second with I guess the remaining fuel from the engine before it shut off.

Has this been a problem for anyone else who has done a 3rd gen swap? what do you guys think the solution is?

I am having the ST205 fuel pump put in perhaps tomorrow, maybe it will start.. I let you guys know what happens if we get the fuel pump installed tomorrow

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 30, 2009 - 5:30 PM

[95st-celica]

you gotta get that stock fuel pump out of there... i woulndt even trust starting it with that fuel pump....invest in a walbro and your problem will go away

good progress other then that

[lagos]

COR

[SlvrCelica09]

COR

hmm perhaps that could be the problem.. says in the manual to inspect continuity between the terminals.. I think ill do that first today before i change the fuel pump.. thanks for the tip lagos

(btw.. you were right about me before.. its a whole new ball game when you start swaps)

[SlvrCelica09]

hey guys.. does anyone know where i can find a good how to on changing the fuel pump in a GT? dont have 400 dollars to get changed at a shop so i would like to do it myself.. im putting a ST205 fuel pump in there

[pitcelica]

remove rear seats, remove the access hole, unbolt fuel lines and hoses, unbolt the fuel pump assembly from the fuel tank.

[SlvrCelica09]

thanks pit... i think ive found my problem however.. i have not made a relay for the fuel pump.. that is required for the 3sgte swap correct? going to do that monday and see what happens

[Batman722]

you have to wire in the fuel pump to make it work

also the ic and pump, use relays and wire them in just like the pics or they won't work right.

if you have any questions, hit me up, I've done 4 3rd gen 3s' so far.

[Celicia]

well mike, you have done very well. Dont give it up Its a shame your setup did not come with a relay box Try your best and read the cut wires and figure out which ones are for the fuel pump and make the relay for it.. dont forget the intercooler as well. Once you do that, change the fuel pump. Stay encouraged, you are almost done

[SlvrCelica09]

* baby update * (hate baby updates.. means the car still isnt fully good)
edit:

ok guys i wired in the fuel pump.. fixed ignition error.. thinking i have vacuum leaks however.. will address this new problem tuesday.. current status is:

engine starts up great.. but cannot press gas.. im thinking i may have a leak somewhere.. will find out tommarow

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Oct 5, 2009 - 8:12 PM

[SlvrCelica09]

I really need a vacuum hose diagram guys.. if anyone knows where i can find one for a 3rd gen.. i would greatly appriciate..