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post Dec 24, 2009 - 3:45 PM
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hi guys today was the first day I 've driven my 94 celica gt in snow. (I've driven many other vehicles in snow before this) I was only in about 3" of snow and could barely get out of the driveway. Granted it is an icy snowfall very slick, and my tires are less than half tread, but for a front wheel drive car i was fairly upset.....It does get much better traction in reverse than forward just as a side note. so I am wondering how does your front wheel drive celica do in say 3" of snow or more, not on plowed roads but fresh snow????

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post Dec 24, 2009 - 4:31 PM
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Do you have rims and low pros? I know the first snowfall i had in NY my rims were still on and i dont think that the low pros were really meant for snow and it was a terrible ride lol. But with the stock tires and 90% tread my car is great on the roads, if you drive with caution.
I can take sharp turns into my driveway that isnt plowed (which i do) and spin all over the place biggrin.gif. i'd say that overall the celica is a great snow car, if you dont drive like an idiot X)

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hi guys today was the first day I 've driven my 94 celica gt in snow. (I've driven many other vehicles in snow before this) I was only in about 3" of snow and could barely get out of the driveway. Granted it is an icy snowfall very slick, and my tires are less than half tread, but for a front wheel drive car i was fairly upset.....It does get much better traction in reverse than forward just as a side note. so I am wondering how does your front wheel drive celica do in say 3" of snow or more, not on plowed roads but fresh snow????

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post Dec 24, 2009 - 4:33 PM
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Factory ride height and rims. If I lowered it at all it would be a joke to drive here in the WI winters. I wonder how hard it is to add a limited slip differential. I am fine on plowed roads but in the driveway not plowed is my problem.....
post Dec 24, 2009 - 4:48 PM
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QUOTE (bdog_v @ Dec 24, 2009 - 3:33 PM) *
Factory ride height and rims. If I lowered it at all it would be a joke to drive here in the WI winters. I wonder how hard it is to add a limited slip differential. I am fine on plowed roads but in the driveway not plowed is my problem.....


I hear you dude. Wisconsin winters are harsh! that's why I'm still at stock height. hahahahha


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post Dec 24, 2009 - 5:36 PM
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I know that there will probably be someone with the exact opposite argument as me because it's not a set science but I do believe it has to do with the weight of our cars.

Once you get going there is really no problems but because our cars are so light they have no weight to compress the snow fully and that's why its easy to start spinning the tires if you're standing still in the snow. I know for a fact that first gear is completely useless in the snow in my car, however with the recent snow I had to start in 1st and not 2nd because I also have a brand new clutch which grabs like hell compared to my old one. I used first to just gain motion (up to about 3 mph), then second till about 10mph and then finally hit third which allowed me a little more throttle then since I was already in motion.

I have 4 month old Yokohama Avid VS4's so it's not like my tires are summer or low tread either.
post Dec 24, 2009 - 5:49 PM
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I think our cars are pretty beast. Just snowed a good 5 inches in Saskatoon these past 2 days and i haven't had any trouble yet. but yea, first is pretty useless and its pretty light so once you get going on fresh powder snow, its kinda scary lol. I just put some new all seasons on stock rims, with stock ride height.
post Dec 24, 2009 - 6:28 PM
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See, that's why you lower your car. That way it can double as a snow plow, which makes things easier for the tires to get grip... (That's a joke btw). But really, even lowered, mine does fine. Might just be the loose nut behind the steering wheel? (Another joke...)
post Dec 24, 2009 - 10:28 PM
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1.8 drop with winter tires mich x-ice and I'm surviving MN winter just fine and we're having a big storm right now lol.


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post Dec 25, 2009 - 2:37 AM
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can someone explain why my post got deleted?? i didn't bash any one, it was on topic and im pretty sure i didn't use foul language, whats the deal?


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post Dec 25, 2009 - 8:41 AM
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It got deleted off this one? lol i think i remember reading all of them and they weren't bad at all lol. and ive used "bad language" in my posts b4 and never got deleted X)
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can someone explain why my post got deleted?? i didn't bash any one, it was on topic and im pretty sure i didn't use foul language, whats the deal?



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post Dec 25, 2009 - 11:39 AM
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my celi did pretty good, even with wisconsin having snow one minute and freezing rain the next


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post Dec 25, 2009 - 5:29 PM
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QUOTE (bdog_v @ Dec 24, 2009 - 4:45 PM) *
Granted it is an icy snowfall very slick, and my tires are less than half tread, but for a front wheel drive car i was fairly upsetThanks

2wd just doesnt handle the snow/ice like 4wd or awd. less than half tread on all seasons isnt going to help you much in the snow. If u get stuck, just rock back and forth from 1st to reverse to 1st to reverse to get yourself some momentum. Or just drive around with a shovel and bag of kitty litter or sand.
post Dec 25, 2009 - 6:06 PM
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This thread made me facepalm at first. It's a Celica and snow. Honestly. What did you expect? But I can't be a hypocrite. I still drive mine every time it snows here. It's no fun having to dig myself out of my driveway every single time I have to go somewhere, or worse, when I have to dig myself back into the driveway. I feel everyone's pain who has had to drive in snow. I had Falken Ziex 512's last year when we had 8 inches of snow with 4 inches of ice on top of it, and I still had to go driving in that stuff. Like laff09 said, just keep some kitty litter with you. It's a lifesaver.


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post Dec 25, 2009 - 7:32 PM
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Well with me being from Canada, we see quite the winters. Once winter time comes around I throw studded winters on the stock rims and it drives awesome. 3 inches of snow is nothing for us up here. Haha I'm used to quite a bit more to drive in, but yes, I find my gt-s great in the snow. All really depends what kind of tires you're running I guess.


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post Dec 25, 2009 - 7:42 PM
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Kitty litter that is a good idea as it is easy to carry along with you. But seriously there is a big difference in various front wheel drive cars in snow. My old college car was an 87 nissan sentra with the littlest pizza cutter tires and it would walk all over my celica as far as driving in snow in my driveway. ( keep in mind my driveway is about 100 feet long and is not always plowed.) However take it out on the highway at 50mph with some snow on the road and it was scarry as hell with the short wheelbase and no weight. I have built an owned various 4x4's and rear wheel drive cars and I was only comparing to other front wheel drive cars. Its amazing the difference one will have due to weight distribution, tires, horsepower, ground clearance, gearing, etc. it all factors in and there is a big difference.... For example back in the day my friend had a dodge neon and that thing got stuck all the time in snow, while another buddy had a cavalier and it would walk right through what the neon couldn't dream of....... Its really surprising if you take the time to observe the differences.

Thanks for all the comments.....
post Jan 5, 2010 - 1:51 AM
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My Celi was pretty scary to drive with all seasons on. After i swapped for the snow tires that the previous owner so graciously gave me, it drives like a champ in any weather. It definitely doesnt handle as well as my 94 Civic did without the snow tires... Braking is also a problem for me? (rear drums and no ABS, Civic had 4 wheel disc + ABS) Idk if its due to the drums or what... It just sucks...
post Jan 5, 2010 - 10:00 PM
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2 words... No led foot and the right tires. wink.gif wink.gif


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post Jan 5, 2010 - 11:05 PM
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What kind of tires do you have?

I don't know why you guys have such issues. My Celica gets around just fine in the snow, ran thru areas with well over 6 inches of it today and did just fine. Stock suspension and wheels, my tires are nearly-bald Bridgestone Potenza all-seasons. Same driving as normal, starting in 1st gear, etc, but using caution to keep traction and braking early to be sure you stop in time. Only issue I have is the back end wants to slide out in a turn, but that's just because my back tires are bald.

With good tires and a little experience the Celica should get around just fine in snow, off-road, etc. One of the best winter vehicles I've had other than a WRX. With mud/snow tires can haul some real ass on winding dirt and gravel roads.


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post Jan 5, 2010 - 11:19 PM
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i drove mine last winter with the stock wheels and crappy worn out winter tires, and as low as it is.... and i did fine...clearance was an issue at times but other then that no big problems....winter driving is all about knowing how to drive in snow and have proper tires... the celica is an amazing car in the snow if its at stock height and proper snow tires...if it had an lsd it would be even better!.. on that note i have a friend who has a gt four as a winter car and it works amazing, awd and big studed tires.... its a frigin tank!


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post Jan 5, 2010 - 11:39 PM
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I don't mind snow--but the ice scares me!! I believe the Celica is the best handling car I've driven in the winter.
I use my Bigblock heads for weight! biggrin.gif !
Kitty litter is something I forgot!! I have 10 lbs of "ice melt" that's supposed to be good to -15*.
Our driveway is ~45 ft. long.
We live kinda mid-hill off a turn so that sux when it gets iced!--Come around the corner,keep the wheel turned,go down about 20 ft, the try to go up the grade maybe 25-30* for 20 ft before it levels off!! Then there's the 20x20 in front of the garage--that's where the Camaro is hibernating!!( Next to my brides daily driver.)
I start out in 2nd when traction is iffy.


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