Invader FB Doesnt fit! :( pics, pics up. Options

[96stgreendemon]

^^ wow thats stupid why would you ever remove your crash bar, well hey if ya hit anything then your engine is toast

[ajmorris1977]

^^ wow thats stupid why would you ever remove your crash bar, well hey if ya hit anything then your engine is toast

lets face it, if you hit anything that metal bar can only protect you so much, i agree its not the best solution but for those of us on a budget we do what we have to, the only other way around it is to buy a gt4 crash bar that is smaller (so i'm told) and since i'm not in the position to be able to find one for a good price i do what i can.

i don't have all the answers i can only tell you what i found doing mine and tell you what i did.

[johnnehh]

You could just modify your crash bar to make it fit. That's what I'm doing when I get the GT4 bumper.

[96stgreendemon]

exactly, you could modify a crash bar with nothing more than an angle grinder with a cutting wheel, yes i love my car as much as the next guy which is why i would never take such a chance with it, you take one little hit and the car is done

[mgnt232]

So should I cut my crashbar, or try and sand myFB and modify it a little?

exactly, you could modify a crash bar with nothing more than an angle grinder with a cutting wheel, yes i love my car as much as the next guy which is why i would never take such a chance with it, you take one little hit and the car is done

[96stgreendemon]

^^ yes thats exactly what you should do, driving around without a crash bar is retarded, i dont care what kind of front end i have, i will always put in the extra work and not take the easy way out, when you take the easy way out you could really be screwing yourself in the future if you hit anything

[mgnt232]

Yeah ill be keeping the crashbar in mine. Ill do the work right and take all the time as soon as it get nicer out! Will be posting up the pics as soon as I do the FB

^^ yes thats exactly what you should do, driving around without a crash bar is retarded, i dont care what kind of front end i have, i will always put in the extra work and not take the easy way out, when you take the easy way out you could really be screwing yourself in the future if you hit anything

[96stgreendemon]

good to hear, never really been a fan of that body kit because most people that have it half ass the work and it fits and looks like ****, but if its done right then they can look good, and i just wouldnt wanna take that chance with losing my car over the way the crash bar looks imo

[yarik83]

blind leading a blind. you guys are just awesome.

first and foremost remove detachable lip of your invader bumper

secondly do this in a heated environment and not in the freezing cold since carbon fiber material does stiffen up and shrink

thirdly there is no such thing as 'on the budget' forget about the engine. during crash your crashbar is specifically designed to absorb damage minimizing it on other things. if you want to remove it... you better pray you have enough money to fix that car on your own because your insurance company will have a field day screwing you.

also when your bumper is unscrewed and is heated up in the sun so it has a little give to it, place it on top of the metal bar that is bolted on right on top of your headlights. with bumper hanging off that bar stretch one end out slightly and do so to other end. your bumper will almost snap into place. Reach under black plastic on top of tire and screw very top bolt (right next to your headlight) then do the same thing on other side. then bolt second one on both sides then third. If your bumper is pre-drilled holes may not align so you may have to re-drill.

after all of that you may have to re-drill holes on top of bumper and bolt that thing right in. now your bumper should be hanging by 10 bolts. at this time you would screw in bottom lip and drill and fit it to connect to holes on underplastic etc etc etc.

if your head lights do not match after all that (ie actual hole is shifted to left or right of headlight) then you may have to cut that bumper and fit it into place, fiberglassing and filling the gap that previously did not exist.

your bumper in all likelyhood will be offset from your headlights by as much as an inch. that gap can be filled in with fiberglass. Depending on quality of your bumper you may have do either do no extra work or a lot of extra work and possibly remove bumper half of dozen times and do all the fiberglassing.

in example below i had to cut a bumper and slap some fiberglass sheets over it.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8384/celicaxat017.jpg

[ajmorris1977]

i never had this problem, mine went straight on but when i was at the Foty meet i saw one of the guys has a problem that sounds similar to your discription, see the pic below....



not sure what you do to fix it, sorry

[SlvrCelica09]

^^ wow thats stupid why would you ever remove your crash bar, well hey if ya hit anything then your engine is toast

^^ yes thats exactly what you should do, driving around without a crash bar is retarded, i dont care what kind of front end i have, i will always put in the extra work and not take the easy way out, when you take the easy way out you could really be screwing yourself in the future if you hit anything

I removed my crash bar for the GT4 conversion, its not as horrible as you make it out to be. I've been crashbarless for a whole year now. I've dinged some things but haven't had any serious damages w/o the crash bar. Of course having the crash bar is better, but driving w/o is by no means "stupid" or "retarded" bro. If you crash your front end into anything bar or not your front end and engine will be toast. Maybe your front end wont be as damaged with the crashbar.. but I can 100% guarantee you will need to replace that front end anyway if you get into a serious accident.

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Feb 14, 2010 - 10:05 PM

[95CelicaST]

Perhaps if you want a kit that is going to fit right the first time you shouldn't have purchased an eBay special. Did you think that the $150 bumper was going to be a perfect fit? Go fork out some real money for the REAL Veilside kit and stop complaining.

[mgnt232]

Yeah i dont know, I tried to bolt it on one side, and kinda of strecth it to the other, cut out the lights (alot) and it doesnt reach to the top bolts at all, it is like 3" off from where the top bolts would be. It just doesnt fit right... oh welll going to buy another

i never had this problem, mine went straight on but when i was at the Foty meet i saw one of the guys has a problem that sounds similar to your discription, see the pic below....

not sure what you do to fix it, sorry

[richee3]

Perhaps if you want a kit that is going to fit right the first time you shouldn't have purchased an eBay special. Did you think that the $150 bumper was going to be a perfect fit? Go fork out some real money for the REAL Veilside kit and stop complaining.

Yeah, that.

[yarik83]

Before buying anything post pics of everything from different angles. the more pics you have the better i can diagnose what's going wrong with your installation and help you appropriately before you spend any more money.

Before buying anything post pics of everything from different angles. the more pics you have the better i can diagnose what's going wrong with your installation and help you appropriately before you spend any more money.

[mgnt232]

lol I knew it wasn't going to fit great, but everyone else I asked (asked alot of people on here) said that it was not the greatest but it worked and i saw alot of pics and none look as bad as mine. Mine is like defective lol. Just going to buy another.

Perhaps if you want a kit that is going to fit right the first time you shouldn't have purchased an eBay special. Did you think that the $150 bumper was going to be a perfect fit? Go fork out some real money for the REAL Veilside kit and stop complaining.