 Poorman's 3S swap, 1st Gen 3S into a Undeserving 95 ST |
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 Apr 6, 2010 - 11:02 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 16, '07 From BP, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%)  |
Hello, my name is Ger aka ZGear from the Mid-West. Haven't really responded to this forum in all the years I've joined. Though I have supported this site in Minnesota with my 6gc passion.
My initial plans were to save up and buy a blacktop 4a, but in doing so I managed to come across a good deal on a 1st gen 3sgte locally. Whole motor without tranny and a few extra parts for a shiny nickel. My car, stock as ever for about 5 years.  Then an exterior renovation in 2007  Also an engine face lift  This is how she sat for half a year with a case of bad crank bearing.  ---------------------------------------------------------- Now for the good stuff: ---------------------------------------------------------- BCCentaur and associates: "Blizzard Tuning"  Sorry, wasn't able to do the signature Dr. Tweak pose.....  , but it is shiny!Not shown: deleted AC, power steering, and egr.  7afe Part-out time!  ----------------------------------------------------------- What will be going in........ Da Da Dum Dum  1st Gen 3sgte with a TRD low comp head gasket. Comes with a 6GC converted harness for a GT, now all I need is motor mounts, tranny, intercooler, bov, downpipe, seals, etc...... This will be my first turbo motor and a good learning experience before I play with the big boys. I'll try to update along with the progression. --------------------  |
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Apr 6, 2010 - 11:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '08 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
cool stuff man. gonna be interesting to see how this comes out
1st gen as in st165 1st gen?  how is that one different from the second and third gens?
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Apr 6, 2010 - 11:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '07 From BP, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Lower horse power rating at about 190-210, what a 7afte would produce under mild boost, but with the stronger 3sgte's internal components. Single-entry turbo, but I was told that the one on there is the twin-entry from the 2nd gen CT-26. Also W-to-A intercooled and equipped with TVIS, but on this motor the TVIS was blocked off. Bunch of what I read and researched, maybe the pros will shine in.
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Apr 7, 2010 - 7:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 26, '09 From Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Niiice! I look forward to this.
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Apr 8, 2010 - 6:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol i got 3 of those engines in my shop if you need parts let me know
-Bryce -------------------- "What does All-trac mean?....."
umm.......kicks ass! ST165 1988 Celica All-Trac ST204 1995 Celica GT (undergoing GT-Four conversion may 23rd.) |
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Apr 8, 2010 - 7:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '07 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 67 (96%) |
QUOTE (1Bryce1 @ Apr 8, 2010 - 4:03 PM)  lol i got 3 of those engines in my shop if you need parts let me know -Bryce Uh, where in Oregon are you? 
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Apr 8, 2010 - 11:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
He will more than likely need the oil cooler stuff. Maybe the stock oil hard lines too, since the previous owner hacked that into pieces.
I honestly can't wait to see this thing up and running. It has been sitting for quit sometime. I miss the 10 feet launches lol!!!! -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Apr 9, 2010 - 12:01 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '04 From oakdale Mn Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think i know who u got the motor from...did it come outta white 6gc by any chance...
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Apr 9, 2010 - 7:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Nope a red one.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Apr 11, 2010 - 8:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 26, '09 From Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
So what are the goals power wise?
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Apr 11, 2010 - 9:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '07 From BP, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
The stock 200 hp is good DD power for me, maybe 220 - 240 at a higher boost. Later down the road, with a rebuild and a different turbo set-up to maybe about 270-300.
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Apr 11, 2010 - 9:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 26, '09 From Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
500whp or bust
This post has been edited by Nartanian: Apr 11, 2010 - 9:34 PM -------------------- "God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance"
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Apr 11, 2010 - 10:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '07 From CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
-------------------- QUOTE what hes saying is if you put blue lights in you car youll lose hp. |
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May 3, 2010 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '07 From BP, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
This past weekend has been glorious. Although the MN crew did massacre a 6GC, but in doing so to save the lives of many 6GCs.
Smoked Tails. Anyone Want?  Came with side skirts! Alas, my car can bling.  Big no no on hood scoop. Although I see an intercooler.  Painted GT Alloys  Oh my! A second gen 3S. Unfortunately a mr2 owner will be getting this. There was rod-a-knockin.  Could of done a better job with the ground wire tuck.  AFm just flopping around the engine bay with a plastic bendable pipe.  Greddy Type RS Bov for the taking.  Hacked igniter  ------------------------------------------------------- MN 6GC crew at it. RunningLow, Muggs, and BCCCentaur. (not shown: ZGear "taking some pics")  Someone's Molded project becomes my worst nightmare project. Had to grind the paint and bondo to bare metal and fiberglass. The screws also were not the very best at come off again. By pulling a bit too hard the skirts did start to crack, still rebuildable.  About another 10 minutes into it with no progress.....hmmmmm I wonder why.  What!!!! Polyurethane was a pain to break off from the body.  ------------------------------------------------------- Auto To Manual  Shifter Assembly from the donor car  Drilled clutch pedal and mounted  Drilled master cylinder and mounted  Shifter cables over and out 
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May 3, 2010 - 10:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Just beautiful. All that is missing is the Doctor tweak pose. We are going to have you do that tomorrow.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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May 4, 2010 - 4:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '08 From Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Apr 8, 2010 - 8:41 PM) QUOTE (1Bryce1 @ Apr 8, 2010 - 4:03 PM) lol i got 3 of those engines in my shop if you need parts let me know -Bryce Uh, where in Oregon are you? Portland -------------------- "What does All-trac mean?....."
umm.......kicks ass! ST165 1988 Celica All-Trac ST204 1995 Celica GT (undergoing GT-Four conversion may 23rd.) |
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May 4, 2010 - 6:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '05 From ST PAUL, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
well done!!!!!!..hey when did u take that picture!
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Jun 17, 2010 - 12:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 23, '10 From Madison, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dude u guys made my day haha cant believe there is 6gc tuners so close! im here in wisconsin and will be doing a swap very soon hopefully a meet in the near future! have fun with the swap guys!!!
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88 All-trac -Now a front clip 90 Celica - Sold 94 Prelude -Sold 94 Celica - Project Optimus Prime LoL |
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Jun 17, 2010 - 8:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
So who was the owner of the donor car?
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If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Jun 18, 2010 - 11:43 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Runnin-Low's buddy I guess.
The 2nd gen spun a rod in the donor car. So Zgear (Ger) will be installing the gt front spindle to accommodate the GT front brakes. And he will also be using the rear discs for his ST too. GER, I'm waiting for you to drop the harness of to me lazy ass!!! -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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