engine problem after rebuild, wont start and run Options

[STCelica]

alright well here is the story. i bought a 97 celica vert for 150 bucks and the engine that was in it threw a rod. so needless to say it was no good. i pulled the engine and got another 2.2 out of a camary. i turned the crank, new rings, valve seals the whole 9. anyways i but the damn thing back in and tried to start her but she will not run. the motor is in time check in 4-5 times, i got spark, fuel, and cmpression is about 155-160 in each cylinder. ive tried replacing the crank sensor, tps, i put in a new injectors off another motor i had. each cylinder is getting fuel cause the plugs are wet. the only thing i havent checked yet is the fuel pressure, but i know its getting up there. the only thing the motor doesnt have now is the egr and all the hose that went along with it. all my grounds are hooked up and ive even added a few. i just need some advice on what this could be, i am stumped. thanks in advance.

[pittfirefighter]

define will not run... thats pretty broad... it chokes? it starts and dies? it doesn't turn over? it turns but doesn't fire? be more specific... its the only way we can help

[STCelica]

just cranks over, its cranking but will not fire. every now and then i can get a little pop but no start. i also replaced the dist cap and rotor, plug wires, and plugs

[pittfirefighter]

just cranks over, its cranking but will not fire. every now and then i can get a little pop but no start. i also replaced the dist cap and rotor, plug wires, and plugs

are the wires in the right firing order? how sure are you that you have spark?

[STCelica]

the firing order is good and i know i have spark not only did i get zonked by it you can see it wtih the spark tester i got.

[Bitter]

ignition timing way off?

[STCelica]

used a timing light and it flashed that it was on time

[Bitter]

what year was the camry? what parts off the camry did you leave on?

[Smaay]

well if your compression is that good timing should be good. im not sure why is not firing up. how about the ECU? maybe it took a crap

[STCelica]

Think it was a 93. As far as parts go I used everything that came off the 97.

[Bitter]

well you're missing something, are the injectors plugged in in the correct order?

[STCelica]

Yep I took the rail off the old motor and put it on the new one and all are getting a pulse I used a nouid light to test and I know there are spraying since I can see the fuel on the plug. The only thing I haven't tested yet is the fuel pressure

[stephen_lee]

try swappin the wires between cyl 1/4 and 2/3
your timimng may be 180 degrees off. it'll show up as fine when u use a timing light

[STCelica]

well another day done and still cant get this #@%$ing car running. today i checked my fuel pressure and i have good pressure at the filter. about 65-70 lbs. i even replaced the fuel pulsation valve since the one on the car wasnt holding a vacume. i am at my wits end with this car. so is my dad. the only thing i havent replaced yet is the fuel pressure regulator. i just dont know anymore.

[Motegi]

alright well here is the story. i bought a 97 celica vert for 150 bucks and the engine that was in it threw a rod. so needless to say it was no good. i pulled the engine and got another 2.2 out of a camary. i turned the crank, new rings, valve seals the whole 9. anyways i but the damn thing back in and tried to start her but she will not run. the motor is in time check in 4-5 times, i got spark, fuel, and cmpression is about 155-160 in each cylinder. ive tried replacing the crank sensor, tps, i put in a new injectors off another motor i had. each cylinder is getting fuel cause the plugs are wet. the only thing i havent checked yet is the fuel pressure, but i know its getting up there. the only thing the motor doesnt have now is the egr and all the hose that went along with it. all my grounds are hooked up and ive even added a few. i just need some advice on what this could be, i am stumped. thanks in advance.

Did you get any check engine codes? I have a 1990 toyota celica gt automatic with the 2.2liter and bought a new aftermarket distributor. I installed it and the car started up no problem for about a month when it randomly wouldn't start. I knew I was getting fuel because I would smell it but it still wouldn't start. I got a code 11 ecu/ecm which in the repair manual said may have a problem with your ecu or distributor. It would be rare that my ecu would just go bad so my guess was that the aftermarket distributor wasn't compatible with my engine. I put on my old distributor even though it leaks oil and haven't had a starting issue since.

I would check around your distributor, I don't know if there are any compatability issues with your 1997 celica convertible and with the camry 2.2 motor you swapped.

[STCelica]

Well I'll ohm test the dist before I buy a new one. Does anyone know what the timing is suposed to be. My haynes manual says tdc with the cam and my timing book I have that tells u the timing for all cars tells me 45 degrees bdtc. Which one is it. I've tried both and tge car still won't run.

[STCelica]

Also wheni hooked it up to a obdII reader it pulled a camshaft position sensor. As far as I know my celica doesn't have on unless it's built into the dist.

[STCelica]

Now I just called a guy who has Micheal on demand and he told me that the timing should be 8-12 degrees after tdc. Which one is it. If it's this one then I'm 57 degrees out of time. Idk.

[bmj67]

Dont use a timing light to set physical timing of the timing belt. Set cyl 1 which is on timing belt side to TDC. A quick way to check without the cover on is pull the spark plug and put a long skinny screwdriver in the hole and slowly turn the crank till it goes up the whole way. Now that crank is set to TDC set cam gear to correct position. There is a small hole in the webbing of the gear and if you look at the head behind the gear you will see a small indent. Line up the hole in the cam gear and the indent. Now cam gear is set. Next make sure the spring loaded idler for the timing belt is loose then push it down as far as it will go and lock it in place with the bolt. Then put the belt on loosen then idler to take up slack retighten bolt turn the engine 2 complete turns check that marks on the crank and cam are still good then you are done.

This post has been edited by bmj67: Apr 28, 2010 - 11:50 AM

[CELL_PROTOTYPE_X]

Did you check your fuel pump?