jdm SIDEMIRROR wiring INFO, attention NEVERSTOP, CTCAT2049 Options

[m4dm4n]

This is a great thread, and I'm only changing over to these because the pass. side mirror housing was badly damaged from one of the previous owners. It looks like some idiot was trying to melt the plastic with a lighter to rejoin the broken piece.

Anyway I grabbed a pair of JDM folding 6G mirrors off eBay with the control switch and they arrived yesterday arvo. I go to unbolt the broken mirror and remove it but it wouldn't come away from the door. Upon closer inspection I realised there was still a screw holding it in place.

How do we get to the screw?

[mkernz22]

This is a great thread, and I'm only changing over to these because the pass. side mirror housing was badly damaged from one of the previous owners. It looks like some idiot was trying to melt the plastic with a lighter to rejoin the broken piece.

Anyway I grabbed a pair of JDM folding 6G mirrors off eBay with the control switch and they arrived yesterday arvo. I go to unbolt the broken mirror and remove it but it wouldn't come away from the door. Upon closer inspection I realised there was still a screw holding it in place.

How do we get to the screw?

You just really have to pull at it man. It wont break so do worry. Try working it up and down and all around and then it will eventually come out. <-that just sounds so bad haha

This post has been edited by mkernz22: Sep 6, 2010 - 9:13 PM

[m4dm4n]

Yeah I was going to do that but then I thought there's no way to get that screw back in again... I suppose it's not really needed though is it?

[mkernz22]

when you put the new mirror on, it just pops back in the hole. It's a semi safety device so that the mirror doesn't fall when you take off all the bolts

[m4dm4n]

awesome i'll give that a go, thanks man

[mkernz22]

yeah, no problem at all! GL

[PriEagle]

I've read through this thread soooooooo many times. LOL

I first had a 96+ version of the side mirrors but the motor on the driver side was defective so I bought another pair and this time with a switch. BUT, the new one I got (which was packaged a whole lot better and is in really awesome condition) is the 94-95 version. I might be asking a stupid question or even a question that has been answered (eventhough I couldn't find it) but I'm so busy with work that when I do have time to sit down and try to learn something new its already 9pm and I'm tired. Please help guys.

I'll take pics of what I got but just to give you an idea of what I'm having trouble with....the set of side mirrors I got also came with the pigtails and the switch as well.

Wires for retract/return on mirror motor are solid green and solid blue.
Wires from pigtail for retract/return on mirror motor are red w/yellow and blue w/white.
Of course from the switch there is only a pink wire that as I understand would connect to the stock relay which then sends the signals out to both mirrors.

My question/problem is that I do not have the stock relay that should have arrived with this pair of mirrors and switch; and would like to use two 5-pin relays and wire mirrors and switch with both 5-pin relays such that polarities would change when I press the push-button on the switch.

I'm not familiar with relays as much and would like assistance from anybody that has probably encountered this same problem or other alternatives with using original switch to control power folding mirrors. If this isn't possible, I suppose I'll deal with using a DPDT switch as was suggested but really would prefer using push-button. :-D

On a side note: if anybody is in need of a passenger side 96+ mirror motor with power folding I'll have it available after I install the pair of folding mirrors I got now.......or maybe somebody out there got a jap relay for the pair of folding mirrors I got now...:-/

thanks in advance for any help.

[mkernz22]

just read this whole thread. legit.

only question that popped into my mind, "we have heated mirrors?..."
do we though? cause I never knew about it.

This thread will be very helpful for when I install mine
Dustin might help me a little bit though

[azian_advanced]

only question that popped into my mind, "we have heated mirrors?..."
do we though? cause I never knew about it.

heated mirrors was never available in north america but were a feature in uk cars 96 and up. there were no specific buttons for it but was probably linked with the rear defrost button.
if you can source the mirrors, you can wire them in yourself.. there are only 2 wires so wiring should be pretty simple. check out this guide: How to create a Super Mirror

Part Numbers:

Glass, Mirror
87931-2B800 RH
87961-2B800 LH

[mkernz22]

only question that popped into my mind, "we have heated mirrors?..."
do we though? cause I never knew about it.

heated mirrors was never available in north america but were a feature in uk cars 96 and up. there were no specific buttons for it but was probably linked with the rear defrost button.
if you can source the mirrors, you can wire them in yourself.. there are only 2 wires so wiring should be pretty simple. check out this guide: How to create a Super Mirror

Part Numbers:

Glass, Mirror
87931-2B800 RH
87961-2B800 LH

I just bought a pair of JDM folding mirrors with the R516 switch.
the only reason i knew about the heated mirrors was from this thread and my fuse box lol
I'll most likely wire them to an external switch for easier access.
Thank you for the link and the part numbers! They are very helpful

This post has been edited by mkernz22: Jan 13, 2011 - 11:59 PM

[mkernz22]

How hard is it to put the mirror back on after you've popped it off?
is there a special glue or something?

[azian_advanced]

10x easier than taking it off.

[italiano169]

IM LOOKING FOR THE RELAY THAT THEY ARE TALKING BOUT IN THIS POST. PLEASEEEEE HELPPP
87989-17020 OR 87989-20060

[mkernz22]

that part is pretty hard to find....good luck with it.
try to find the switch with the r516 on the back because the relay is built in

[Makabra]

I got my mirrors from facelifted jdm gt4. They dont come with a separated relaybox. As i found on UK celica club, after facelift they moved relay into switch. Also theres a difference in retraction mechanism. No need to mod anytning to get a full retraction after LHD conversion

[dudeofchaos]

Hey guys, I have a Jdm st205 and there are 5th gen mirrors on it right now though I want to put the 6th gen power folding mirrors on it. I believe I only have one left with no glass on it. If I get myself USDM mirrors I won't be able to make them fold right? I guess the only solution left is to buy a new set, or is it?

This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: Feb 10, 2012 - 2:09 AM

[njccmd2002]

yes you can make them fold.

just have to get out of the car and do it manually..

[dudeofchaos]

yes you can make them fold.

just have to get out of the car and do it manually..

I *obviously* meant electrically..

[dudeofchaos]

Could anybody help me, I've got this situation;

My mirror is wired (correctly, it's a JDM so there was no modification made). The motor is able to flip it open but it can make it fold as you can see on these 2 videos:





It seems like it doesn't have enough strenght to make it fold, I have to help it with my hand or it won't move.


And also the lens only moves from left to right, not up and down.
Anybody knows what's the problem??

This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: Mar 12, 2012 - 7:00 PM

[azian_advanced]

i had a similar issue with mine and the problem was that the worm gear popped off the shaft. there's enough resistance to transfer torque from the shaft to the worm gear, but there isn't enough longitudinal resistance along the length of the shaft to keep the gear from popping off.

i simply super-glued the worm gear to the shaft to keep it from popping & clicking like that but it's tricky because the hole in the wormgear is about 1mm and you only need a tiny amount of glue to do it but be careful from gluing the shaft to the motor. i can see the worm gear pop at 00:34 secs in the 2nd video.