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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
i found this pic that gives you an idea if anyone is looking to do a throttle body coolant bypass. i found it helpful so i hope it helps you guys.
![]() -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 28, '08 From CT Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
How do you go about doing this and what are the benefits?
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 28, '08 From CT Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
No i know that im just asking how to do it and whereabouts i should loop the coolant hoses
-------------------- 96 Celica gt 5 spd 218k intake, header, rear strutbar, new clutch...again :/
02 Saab 9-5 silver Aero 5 speed 150k w/ 80k mile engine, new clutch, k&n intake, turbos xs bov 92 sandstone grey 3000gt vr4 upgraded turbos, turboback exhaust, intake, mbc, walbro 91 black 3000gt vr4 needs work stock turbos |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
where it says iac in the pic. take the two lines that go to the throttle body and with a double male fitting plug them into each other.
instead to taking the throttle body off what i did was take the intake off, then there is a little white box. remove that with a screwdriver. and take the clamps off that hold them on and pul them off.( warning let the car cool down before you do this or you will get a really hot shower. and even when the car is cool, there will be a small amount of coolant that will come out. nothing to worry about.) -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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Haha thanks i looked at the pic again and was like wow im retarted i was looking at the writing and thought they were trying to do it down there and was confusing, i got it now thanks
-------------------- 96 Celica gt 5 spd 218k intake, header, rear strutbar, new clutch...again :/
02 Saab 9-5 silver Aero 5 speed 150k w/ 80k mile engine, new clutch, k&n intake, turbos xs bov 92 sandstone grey 3000gt vr4 upgraded turbos, turboback exhaust, intake, mbc, walbro 91 black 3000gt vr4 needs work stock turbos |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
yup no problemo.
-------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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know what size fitting that is?
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
i used a 3/8. its was a really good fit. make sure not to get the plastic kind or else it could melt and cause some problemes.
-------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
this is why i say do this when the engine is cool. ( this only happend because i went to push the line back into place becuase i didnt have any clamps on it.)... yes i know im stupid lol. all the red spots you see are now blisters.
![]() This post has been edited by 4-eyed-freek: Oct 24, 2010 - 7:26 PM -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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The only REAL benefit you gain from capping off the hoses is it just makes taking out the IAC valve easier thats about it I shave 1min off my time when removing the IACV/Throttle body for cleaning.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) ![]() |
there is no gain in power by removing the throttle bypass lines and instead you'll get rough (low) idle on initial start ups. it's not worth it.
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It will help with heat tho, the less heat in the throttle body the better
-------------------- 96 Celica gt 5 spd 218k intake, header, rear strutbar, new clutch...again :/
02 Saab 9-5 silver Aero 5 speed 150k w/ 80k mile engine, new clutch, k&n intake, turbos xs bov 92 sandstone grey 3000gt vr4 upgraded turbos, turboback exhaust, intake, mbc, walbro 91 black 3000gt vr4 needs work stock turbos |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
there is no gain in power by removing the throttle bypass lines and instead you'll get rough (low) idle on initial start ups. it's not worth it. yes It will help with heat tho, the less heat in the throttle body the better no. long story short, air does not hang out in there long enough to pick up a measurable amount of heat. ANYWAYS, your intake manifold is METAL which will heat the throttle body by CONDUCTION. -------------------- |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 16, '07 From covington, KY Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (77%) ![]() |
YAY!!! Someone actually knows common sense! Thank you bitter.
While your at it take the thermostat out your engine will run cooler(@ highway speeds), and increases gas milage(@ highway speeds). |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) ![]() |
Since we've gotten into this, I really want to see some numbers. Ive heard theories, about how every deg cooler=this and that. Time to get some temp readings. Guess what Im doing tomorrow at lunch? Although wont be all inclusive as im not taking exact reading of air temp, as opposed to TB temps. If I had an adapter and a temp gauge I would do that as well, but might as well work free to see if there is anymore to this!
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Just a warning to those who live where it snows. Doing this will will increase the chance of your throttle become frozen open. That is the main reason why manufactures took the extra precaution of running coolant through the throttle body.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
how would it get frozen if there is not liquid in there? im just asking ..not to be a dick or anything, i just wanna make sure it doesnt happen. i have had other cars with throttle body's with no coolant running through them and i live in the upper part of michigan and had no problemes.
-------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
![]() Celica: The name is derived from the Spanish word for "heavenly" or "celestial". Back-2-Back July COTM 15&16 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) ![]() |
Ok, so today at lunch, I took some temp readings (with a Fluke infared thermometer)
26 OCT 10 Temp Readings, With Bypass Ambient Temp: 74.6 Cold Engine Bay/Throttle Body/Air Filter Temp: 81.5/80.1/74.9 @5 minutes running at idle. Engine Bay/TB/Air Filter: 92.5/72.3/76.6 @10 minutes of running at idle. Engine Bay/TB/Air Filter:131.9/72.9/77.9 So, tomorrow I will do this again with the coolant lines hooked back up to stock. 27OCT10 Throttle Body coolant lines hook back up to ports. Ambient Temp: 77.9 Cold Engine Bay/Throttle Body/Air Filter: 97/92.6/86.8 @5 min running at idle. Engine Bay/TB/Air Filter: 114.8/105.8/88.1 @10 min running at idle. Engine Bay/TB/Air Filter: 141/117.9/91 This post has been edited by Spider77: Oct 27, 2010 - 12:08 PM |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) ![]() |
Everything hooked all back up to stock....I'll post some numbers soon!
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